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Title: there's no business like shoe business
Post by: japanesebaby on September 22, 2007, 21:58:58
bono being discussed in one the hated artists thread and shoes on the 'what shoes are you wearing?' one reminded me of this:

looks like whatever it was that bono's wearing wasn't quite the top choice for that day in berlin.  :lol:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7284899323031646494&hl=en
Title: Re: there's no business like shoe business
Post by: Cure Freak on September 22, 2007, 22:06:20
HA!
He has technicians putting his shoes on for him. LOL
Title: Re: there's no business like shoe business
Post by: AlluivialL on September 23, 2007, 00:22:10
Eh, I don't really like Bono. I do like their music though.
Title: Re: there's no business like shoe business
Post by: silversand on September 23, 2007, 00:50:32
That's bad luck, if you were the wrong shoes  :lol:

I have to say i don't like U2 anymore.
Title: Re: there's no business like shoe business
Post by: strange_day on September 23, 2007, 01:36:24
What an idiot that man was, is and always will be.......

He'll be spoonfed in a high-chair next.  :roll:

Im not the biggest fan of U2, as you might've guessed..... ;)
Title: Re: there's no business like shoe business
Post by: AlluivialL on September 23, 2007, 01:39:31
Quote from: strange_day on September 23, 2007, 01:36:24
What an idiot that man was, is and always will be.......

He'll be spoonfed in a high-chair next.  :roll:

Im not the biggest fan of U2, as you might've guessed..... ;)

Lol yeah, Bono is..eh, not cool. So you know how England and Ireland don't really get along n' stuff? Well the taxes in Ireland are really quite high, and England's are a little less, so he got his citizenship in England so he could make more money. Such an ***hole move on his part.
Title: Re: there's no business like shoe business
Post by: japanesebaby on September 23, 2007, 01:47:31
Quote from: AlluivialL on September 23, 2007, 01:39:31
Quote from: strange_day on September 23, 2007, 01:36:24
What an idiot that man was, is and always will be.......

He'll be spoonfed in a high-chair next.  :roll:

Im not the biggest fan of U2, as you might've guessed..... ;)

Lol yeah, Bono is..eh, not cool. So you know how England and Ireland don't really get along n' stuff? Well the taxes in Ireland are really quite high, and England's are a little less, so he got his citizenship in England so he could make more money. Such an ***hole move on his part.

is that so? well now, i bet he was feeling like he could use some extra cash (i mean the man's got a family to feed there for chrissakes!) so it's quite understandable.
(ok hey what a greedy prick.)

Quote from: Cure Freak on September 22, 2007, 22:06:20
HA!
He has technicians putting his shoes on for him. LOL

right... that's why U2 still has technicians for: shoe-techs. to take look after and maintain " the ground beneath his feet"... or shoes.
all else is in god almighty's hands praise the lord (and/or bb king? sorry i kind of tend to forget which one's more important...).
Title: Re: there's no business like shoe business
Post by: AlluivialL on September 23, 2007, 01:49:23
I'm pretty sure U2 makes way enough money to support their family.


Bono is so popular..what are you thinking?
Title: Re: there's no business like shoe business
Post by: japanesebaby on September 23, 2007, 01:53:06
Quote from: AlluivialL on September 23, 2007, 01:49:23
I'm pretty sure U2 makes way enough money to support their family.

yeah i bet they do.... even if they'd pay their taxes to both ireland and UK they'd still make enough to feed half of africa including all baboons porcupines and a couple of south african meerkat colonies.
so i was sort of trying to be sarcastic there you know. 
Title: Re: there's no business like shoe business
Post by: AlluivialL on September 23, 2007, 01:56:56
Quote from: japanesebaby on September 23, 2007, 01:53:06
Quote from: AlluivialL on September 23, 2007, 01:49:23
I'm pretty sure U2 makes way enough money to support their family.

yeah i bet they do.... even if they'd pay their taxes to both ireland and UK they'd still make enough to feed half of africa including all baboons porcupines and a couple of south african meerkat colonies.
so i was sort of trying to be sarcastic there you know. 

Oh lol, I'm sorry. I just..yeah, sarcasm on the Internet isn't easily read all the time.
Title: Re: there's no business like shoe business
Post by: temptation-cure on September 23, 2007, 02:17:24
oh no
bono is the anti-christ  :evil: +  :twisted:
i don't like bono maN!
Title: Re: there's no business like shoe business
Post by: Carnage Visor on September 23, 2007, 02:36:42
For a man all about peace and freedom and justice, it's odd how he makes others put his shoes on for him...

A shame really, as that is probably my favorite U2 song, I'm not a U2 fan at all, but it has a Cure-esque beat and bassline...

LOLTolhurst for putting that up!!! :lol:

Title: Re: there's no business like shoe business
Post by: japanesebaby on September 23, 2007, 02:40:01
more embarrassing u2 moments coming up...  :smth023
(that is if googlevideo and/or youtube don't reject me uploading them for some kind of just-in-case copyright reasons)
Title: Re: there's no business like shoe business
Post by: ROGUE on September 23, 2007, 13:29:20
I dont know, but it looked like he was wearing 'jesus' sandles, or old man sandles, before the 'helper' changed them.

That was funny and strange all at once....what the ??  Was Bono drunk ? What ever happened to "The Show Must Go On ?"  well thats show bizz
Title: Re: there's no business like shoe business
Post by: Cure Freak on September 23, 2007, 14:12:17
Quote from: japanesebaby on September 23, 2007, 01:47:31



right... that's why U2 still has technicians for: shoe-techs. to take look after and maintain " the ground beneath his feet"... or shoes.
all else is in god almighty's hands praise the lord (and/or bb king? sorry i kind of tend to forget which one's more important...).

LOL. Forbid, if anyone would want to kiss that ground.
I think it's pathetic, that he can't even put on hs own shoes and to do it during a song. He could of waited, til the end of it.





Title: Re: there's no business like shoe business
Post by: ROGUE on September 23, 2007, 14:21:43

I agree very disrespectful towards the audience,  aswell.   They didnt pay to watch a lazy b@stard get his shoes changed...

~I didnt realise in the 'other shoe'  topic- 
                                                              that tof's shoes are the same one's Robert wore in the Melb concert- Now i want a pair too  :smth023
Title: Re: there's no business like shoe business
Post by: japanesebaby on September 23, 2007, 14:21:59
Quote from: ROGUE on September 23, 2007, 13:29:20
I dont know, but it looked like he was wearing 'jesus' sandles, or old man sandles, before the 'helper' changed them.

i'd have to take a better look but at least he seems to be find of them today so you could have been right:

(http://img.lasegunda.com/2007/08/01/File_20078116324.jpg)

besides, anything with 'jesus' in it would be so fitting for him now wouldn't it? after all, he's supposed to be the guy sitting on god's right side on those days when jesus is kinda busy, right?

Title: Re: there's no business like shoe business
Post by: japanesebaby on September 23, 2007, 14:25:42
Quote from: Cure Freak on September 23, 2007, 14:12:17
I think it's pathetic, that he can't even put on hs own shoes and to do it during a song. He could of waited, til the end of it.

yes i think it very well displays his character: he actually wanted to make a show out of it because obviously he genuinely does think that anything and everything he does is the most goddamn amazing thing ever under the sun. so yeah, that's just so pathetic.
a mental comparison: can you imagine someone like robert ever doing the same? hell i can't even imagine him being so utterly stupid that he'd put on a wrong pair of shoes when going on stage - even if he was dead-drunk (as he sometimes used to be during live shows, have to admit that :oops:) he wouldn't have done anything that monkey-ish. not to mention embarrassing everyone with some shoe-changing operation in the middle of 'the kiss'?  just think of it...
Title: Re: there's no business like shoe business
Post by: japanesebaby on September 23, 2007, 14:29:18
ok sorry to post three times in a row here, that's pretty lame of me.
anyway, let's have some more "gorgeous" bono moments...:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3854328306060790615

if you ask me, this is not just stupid, this is plain torturous to watch.
:roll:
Title: Re: there's no business like shoe business
Post by: ROGUE on September 23, 2007, 14:34:52
Nope Robert respects his fans  :rocker

God Bono, that pic just ewwww- and the jesus sandles, ewwww, Seeing that clip (of Bono) really does say alot more than any description of him could.... thats just so pig headed and yuck.

Iam too frightened to watch any more Bono- but cant resist, Need input.....


* * JUST Watched it, shi, first i thought my screen was freezing, then i thought- He is mentally unwell, and that sheep-ish laugh  neeehahahha  neeeeahahahahah of one of the goons,  :lol: so stupid had to laugh. But he is just so yuck.  :smth078
Title: Re: there's no business like shoe business
Post by: Lady on September 23, 2007, 14:36:17
Japanesebaby, you are very very cruel  ;) because this video reminds me of those days when I saw the vertigo tour in italy, almost under the stage, very close to bono...and I miss so much those moments...  :(

Bono is always so funny during u2's concerts...he often joke around these situations, always sweet with his fans and with the paparazzi, too! :roll:

Bono is the one! :smth083



Title: Re: there's no business like shoe business
Post by: Cure Freak on September 23, 2007, 14:40:12
Quote from: japanesebaby on September 23, 2007, 14:29:18


if you ask me, this is not just stupid, this is plain torturous to watch.
:roll:
Couldn't agree with you more. I couldn't even watch it til the end. It's so bad.

Quote from: japanesebaby on September 23, 2007, 14:25:42

yes i think it very well displays his character: he actually wanted to make a show out of it because obviously he genuinely does think that anything and everything he does is the most goddamn amazing thing ever under the sun. so yeah, that's just so pathetic.
a mental comparison: can you imagine someone like robert ever doing the same? hell i can't even imagine him being so utterly stupid that he'd put on a wrong pair of shoes when going on stage - even if he was dead-drunk (as he sometimes used to be during live shows, have to admit that :oops:) he wouldn't have done anything that monkey-ish. not to mention embarrassing everyone with some shoe-changing operation in the middle of 'the kiss'?  just think of it...
I agree. And I can't see Robert ever doing this. He has to much devotion to his fans.
Title: Re: there's no business like shoe business
Post by: Lady on September 23, 2007, 14:44:19
Ok but we can't think Robert is God and that everyone who doesn't make things as him is wrong...every artist has a different approach to his audience...
Title: Re: there's no business like shoe business
Post by: ROGUE on September 23, 2007, 14:46:49
Personal choice really,. Probably many things I like ~ that you dont Lady  :smth023
and thank god we are all different,

But to me ~ I just think Robert is so perfect, everything he does, I like other artists aswell - very different to Robert. No rights or wrongs, just opinions, Hope no offense taken, None meant.  :smth001

Yeh Cure Freak - I laughed thinking how pathetic the last clip was. - even youtube it has 'no ratings'- so not just a few that think it yuck.

Just my opinion and sense of humour.

Title: Re: there's no business like shoe business
Post by: japanesebaby on September 23, 2007, 14:49:04
Quote from: Cure Freak on September 23, 2007, 14:40:12
Quote from: japanesebaby on September 23, 2007, 14:29:18


if you ask me, this is not just stupid, this is plain torturous to watch.
:roll:
Couldn't agree with you more. I couldn't even watch it til the end. It's so bad.

i haven't been able to watch it through on one sitting either, not then and not now.
i find it so amazing that he (bono) obviously thinks he's very funny there - he's so fooled by the image of himself being something superhuman that he can't see his own stupidity...

it's always been the problem with that band: they've tried to be self-ironic several times over the years, like during later stages of zoo tv for instance. but it's just just been so embarrassing, every time... because seriously, one simply cannot achieve to be self-rionic if one's so full of himself at the same time! they cannot laugh at themselves because they take themselves so damn seriously. it's just "look at me am i just so funny oh yes i think i am oh it's so great to be me everybody behold!" - ok everyone knows that that's just utter bullshit.
i can't see anything funny in u2, not even if i really really try. you cjust an't both elevate yourself above other living creatures and make fun of yourself at the same time. it's a stillborn idea.
Title: Re: there's no business like shoe business
Post by: japanesebaby on September 23, 2007, 14:58:21
Quote from: Lady on September 23, 2007, 14:44:19
Ok but we can't think Robert is God and that everyone who doesn't make things as him is wrong...every artist has a different approach to his audience...

robert is God? certainly not! i'm the first one here to say that all that is just complete bullshit. i actually really dislike it when people need to worship their idols as persons, just like marvelling their art wasn't enough. i can't find anything godlike in robert (or in any other human either) and like i've said on this board before, i don't feel any need to idolize anyone outside their art.

and sure, every artist has a different approach and i'll allow them that of course. obviously there's something that people find attractive in u2, since so many like them. but personally i feel they work the same way as many charity organizations: they arvertize their mission and try to make people feel a bit guilty. and when people start feeling guilty they become vulnerable and they make donations. and after making a donation people feel done their part, they feel better about themselves - so what actually happens there is that people arebuying themselves a good conscience.
i alwasy see u2 as an equivalent of that in music: people support them and them they feel good about themselves because trhough this band they feel like they are participating in something and making the world a better place to be. ok don't get me wrong, i'm not saying it's all completely worthless, obviously there is some good in it too. but it's still so pompous and so empty, it's like the bought conscience after all.

anyway, about my comparison with robert once more: i surely didn't make it in order to try and prove how robert is some sort of messiah and role model in everything. because he's not (and besides, i could have picked some other artists there for comparison too, it didn't have to be robert. he was just a natural choice since this actually is a cure board hehe). so i just made the comparison to demonstrate how much more respect artists like robert have towards their audiences. they don't make people watch bullshit like that and think they are so great for it and insist that they just offered everyone something really unique! i mean christ, the first lesson of ANY performing artists is to respect his/her audience. you fail that and you fail everything. that's the truth, i dare to say.


**edit:

PS. i didn't start this thread to piss anyone off (i do know there are people here who like u2) or start any kind of useless "oh look how horrendous, now ROBERT would EVER do that, he's so great" crap either. so maybe my comparison with robert was not an idea well thought of. i'd also like to add that i've actually been a fan of u2 in the past years, i still like their early stuff. maybe that's why i also feel  that i can ruthlessly bash them too, if i see it fit. because i've followed their career over the years and seen them turning into a complete opposite of what i thought they originally stood for, what they originally represented - i think they lost themselves because they started love each other, their own image, too much. they used to be a VERY strong band, with a very storng message and sharp music. but all that got lost as they started to enjoy looking into the mirror.... and so today, yes i do think that was unforgivable and i do think it has ruined their music, their art. and believe me i feel bad about it because i turly used to like them! but they are too happy with themselves and so everything they do today is kind of pointless. it's been long since they was any "spark" in them, any such friction that originally made them begin and create music... for me they are just an empty image - and even though i sitll liek their early stuff, i find it hard to forgive them what they've become today.
anyway, i've no problems with someone liking them, not at all. :smth001 but personally i also do find it strange that SO many people are still so fond of them, that's all.
Title: Re: there's no business like shoe business
Post by: Lady on September 23, 2007, 15:06:16
Embarassing??? ?? :shock:

Bono (as Freddie Mercury) is the best performer ever, there's so many pathos at u2's concerts...
U2 have changed the concept of the live performance: not just music but something more, a real contact with their audience deeper...

Ok if you don't like this kind of artist, but you (generally) can't say he's stupid or something like this...please more respect for the leader of a band who wrote the music's history. :roll:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W808IxKofWo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWUFHmAUZm4&mode=related&search=
Title: Re: there's no business like shoe business
Post by: japanesebaby on September 23, 2007, 15:08:19
Quote from: Lady on September 23, 2007, 15:06:16
Ok if you don't like this kind of artist, but you (generally) can't say he's stupid or something like this...please more respect for the leader of a band who wrote the music's history. :roll:

please do read the PS. that i just added to my last post above.  :smth001
Title: Re: there's no business like shoe business
Post by: Lady on September 23, 2007, 15:12:17
Ok japanesebaby! :smth001
The messages come faster than what I write and I read yours just now! ;)
Title: Re: there's no business like shoe business
Post by: ROGUE on September 23, 2007, 15:13:02
Love Freddy, but Bono- From what i have seen here and else where.....(& music wise)

Well my understanding of 'respect' is that is has to be earnt., To me, he hasnt earnt mine.  . . . .  Maybe you have a deeper understanding of him, that i cant see.
I also liked their earlier stuff.

And Lady you obviously do have good taste because you love The Cure's music :smth020

:rocker   Iam glad we are all different, otherwise there would be nothing to talk about, at all...  :D
Title: Re: there's no business like shoe business
Post by: Lady on September 23, 2007, 15:22:43
Quote from: ROGUE on September 23, 2007, 15:13:02
And Lady you obviously do have good taste because you love The Cure's music :smth020
Yes, I love the cure and U2 and their respective ways to be "artist"! :smth001

I don't want that Bono is like Robert and vice versa! ;)
Title: Re: there's no business like shoe business
Post by: ROGUE on September 23, 2007, 15:33:23
Gee I wish i was in Italy, Wanna swap ? for awhile - dual holiday, ?   I go there, You come over here ?

Have fun anyways, you look similar to me in pic, but much prettier :D    :smth020

see you soon, here or there  :smth006
Title: Re: there's no business like shoe business
Post by: Lady on September 23, 2007, 15:47:45
Quote from: ROGUE on September 23, 2007, 15:33:23
Gee I wish i was in Italy, Wanna swap ? for awhile - dual holiday, ?   I go there, You come over here ?
Sure! It's one of my dreams to go to Australia! :-D
I'm gonna waiting for you, come when you want!!! :smth023

Quote from: ROGUE on September 23, 2007, 15:33:23
you look similar to me in pic, but much prettier :D    :smth020
Are you another blond-curefan girl?? ;)
I think we are so few here!!! :-D
Title: Re: there's no business like shoe business
Post by: ROGUE on September 23, 2007, 16:02:27
YES, good to see another female blonde fan~ for me aswell  ~

Hope to visit Europa same time as The Cure - what a bonus, being in Europa and seeing The Cure  :smth051


oh yes, you are most welcome here too  :D Which ever happens first  :smth023
Title: Re: there's no business like shoe business
Post by: Cure Freak on September 23, 2007, 17:53:21
Quote from: Lady on September 23, 2007, 14:44:19
Ok but we can't think Robert is God and that everyone who doesn't make things as him is wrong...every artist has a different approach to his audience...

I don't Robert to be a God or anything ofthe sort. Or am I personaly bashing Bono.
But, in general, for an artist, an act like this is just showing disrespect to your audience and your fans. It's saying, to his audience, my ahoes are more important than you. 


japanesebaby:  His attitude,over the last few years, has came across as "I'm bigger than God". He's become vain and somewhat self centered. And it's,also, being reflected on the band, as well.
And their die hardness of being funny, Christ, they need to give it up. They are no good at it. It's apparent in that video.
Title: Re: there's no business like shoe business
Post by: ROGUE on September 23, 2007, 20:04:59
I dont like Bono either, but this is like beating a dead horse, its all been said before, and think we'll have to learn to agree to disagree

or show some more funny/ not so funny clips ? please Of another daggy or questionable celeb ? maybe ? sumthing new/ish ? 

Or not, and just keep going over this....? I guess others might have an opinion aswell......So early days, Iam just being bored and having

a low sense of concentration/patience recently. . . sorry :oops:

But iam off to bed soon.

Nitee Nite xoxo
Title: Re: there's no business like shoe business
Post by: AlluivialL on September 23, 2007, 22:18:28
Er, that was really horrible to watch, extremely annoying.
Title: Re: there's no business like shoe business
Post by: silversand on September 23, 2007, 23:22:57
I used to like U2 in the 80s, but suddenly they became a stadium band and Bono changed to someone i didn't like (i still don't like) - i mean the sort of "I could save the world" or something like that.
They are pathetic. And the music isn't good it used to be.

I'm glad that Robert doesn't act like Bono. And i think that wouldn't Robert do anyway.
That doesn't fit to him, i think.

Robert isn't godlike or something like that and i wouldn't say that.
He does make mistakes like everybody else, is in bad mood etc.

Of course he is a wonderful and true artist, who want to do what he does 150 % .
Is an artist with body and soul.


Title: Re: there's no business like shoe business
Post by: Carnage Visor on September 23, 2007, 23:52:18
I have made the god comment many times before, but it's just because I'm a goofball and I like to be dramatic! Who ever means that stuff literally? People say it all the time about Johnny Cash and John Lennon, that they are "gods" but nobody means it literally.

When I say Robert is god, I don't mean it literally at all. In fact, Robert is full of flaws that I wish he didn't have, such as drug addiction, alcoholism, etc... but what's more fun? To say, "Robert is cool but full of flaws" or "Robert is the god of post-punk?" I think the latter.

I'm sorry if that cheeses someone off, but that's the way I roll. When I like something alot, I put it high on a pedestal. Such as films I love, I practically worship them. But it's never a serious thing, it's just an extreme way of me expressing my love for something by considering it high and mighty, or godlike.

Title: Re: there's no business like shoe business
Post by: ROGUE on September 25, 2007, 19:28:45
I find it very interesting though, How charm can get you alot, and Robert has alot of respect for us, and he always has.

But what i find interesting is the punk days, when the singer, whatever would stand on the stage and say something like "you are all f**ken idiots, c*nts, piss off" sort of thing., and the audience went mad for it, luved it.
I know girls can get away with that, its either amusing OR you feel respect for them - that they are a strong person.....or like to stand up and have balls or whatever..

But some guy bands are even like that now, I saw an episode of 'Judge Judy' one very v boring afternoon, and a band called "Skitzo" were being sued for vomitting on a girl in the audience....He reached he's hand out in a romantic fashion- she said(and that she had no idea what was going to happen) - then had an intense look and spewed all over her.....?  And apparently does/did it every show. . . Now thats just not charm, at all..... But maybe it would've worked in the punk days ???? ?  ewwwww !! I would've kicked him in the nuts  :lol:

Either way still find Bono spew aswell. Dont like anyone so full of themselfs.
Once again the audience didnt pay to watch him change his shoes-And respect for your fans also goes a long way, Means alot to me anyway.  :smth020