From COF:
From the new issue of Rolling Stone #1050 4/17/08:
The Cure Title TBD 6/3
With thirty-three songs recorded for the Cure's thirteenth album, the band is still figuring out which tracks to submit to the label.
"There's some very, very downbeat seven-minute songs and some very upbeat ones," singer Robert Smith says. "One voice is saying, 'Put out the most commercial-sounding CD and draw people into the Cure world again.' There's another voice saying, 'f*ck that, let's just put out the doom and gloom.'"
At least one tune will almost definitely make the cut: "Sleep When I'm Dead," a recently unearthed demo from 1985's The Head On The Door. "It sounds genuinely 1980's," Smith says. "I don't think that's a bad thing. It's part of our heritage."
Quote from: j on April 04, 2008, 21:42:37
From COF:
From the new issue of Rolling Stone #1050 4/17/08:
The Cure Title TBD 6/3
With thirty-three songs recorded for the Cure's thirteenth album, the band is still figuring out which tracks to submit to the label.
"There's some very, very downbeat seven-minute songs and some very upbeat ones," singer Robert Smith says. "One voice is saying, 'Put out the most commercial-sounding CD and draw people into the Cure world again.' There's another voice saying, 'f*ck that, let's just put out the doom and gloom.'"
Just put out a double album, Robert. 8)
yes, and do it now :D
Quote from: j on April 04, 2008, 21:42:37
"There's some very, very downbeat seven-minute songs and some very upbeat ones," singer Robert Smith says. "One voice is saying, 'Put out the most commercial-sounding CD and draw people into the Cure world again.' There's another voice saying, 'f*ck that, let's just put out the doom and gloom.'"
why on earth is he even pondering something like that (and in public)? he's been talking about a double album anyway for ages now so come on...
somebody :smth100 him, just release the damn thing already...!
And he really thinks that "upbeat" songs are going to suddenly win a bunch of new fans?
Unless they can come up with something as fresh and "with the times" as Wish seemed to be in 1992, they're never going to reach anywhere near that level of commercial success.
And well, releasing Freak Show as a single is not going to get radio airplay. I'm actually one of the "freaks" who kind of like this song, but I can tell when something's not going to be commercially successful.
What was the last "hit" they had anyway? Mint Car? I heard that on the radio a few times, but it never really went anywhere.
Just release a damn double album and make your fans happy. That's the best success you can have anymore.
he is doing his strategy :D
To get people anticipate that this CD will be magnificent, made them wait and wait, so that they buy it even if it will be "The Cure vol. 2" :P
doom and gloom! doom and glooooom!
Release a double album... or one by one (VOL.1 and VOL.2) But release it now Robert!!!! :smth020
P.S. I still waiting... :smth028
Quote from: lostflower4 on April 04, 2008, 23:46:57
And he really thinks that "upbeat" songs are going to suddenly win a bunch of new fans?
Unless they can come up with something as fresh and "with the times" as Wish seemed to be in 1992, they're never going to reach anywhere near that level of commercial success.
And well, releasing Freak Show as a single is not going to get radio airplay. I'm actually one of the "freaks" who kind of like this song, but I can tell when something's not going to be commercially successful.
What was the last "hit" they had anyway? Mint Car? I heard that on the radio a few times, but it never really went anywhere.
Just release a damn double album and make your fans happy. That's the best success you can have anymore.
I'd say The End of the World. I have no idea if it got much MTV play, but I can clearly remember the video (and I've looked it up maybe once on YouTube) and remember that it was all over the 'modern rock' radio station out here. If not The End of the World, I think Wrong Number was their last hit (#20 on the charts, I think? Around there?). I think I remember reading somewhere that it charted higher than the WMS singles.
Anyone have actual numbers?
imo 'the end of the world' got surprisingly lot of airplay/videoplay but without seeing any numbers i think i dare to say it's nowhere near a "hit". it's nowhere near the success that the 'wish' singles had, those were the last real hits i think.
Quote from: japanesebaby on April 05, 2008, 09:30:09
imo 'the end of the world' got surprisingly lot of airplay/videoplay but without seeing any numbers i think i dare to say it's nowhere near a "hit". it's nowhere near the success that the 'wish' singles had, those were the last real hits i think.
I'd argue for the term's relativity; after all, there are bands advertising on some music channel somewhere about their new album, featuring their hit single.
What is required of a single to which the term hit is attached? Top 200? Top 40?
Quote from: lostflower4 on April 04, 2008, 22:30:43
Quote from: j on April 04, 2008, 21:42:37
From COF:
From the new issue of Rolling Stone #1050 4/17/08:
The Cure Title TBD 6/3
With thirty-three songs recorded for the Cure's thirteenth album, the band is still figuring out which tracks to submit to the label.
"There's some very, very downbeat seven-minute songs and some very upbeat ones," singer Robert Smith says. "One voice is saying, 'Put out the most commercial-sounding CD and draw people into the Cure world again.' There's another voice saying, 'f*ck that, let's just put out the doom and gloom.'"
Just put out a double album, Robert. 8)
i gotta agree here.. internal struggle means, something is not right.. FORGET the COMMERCIAL-SOUNDING ALBUM!! please Robert.
Quote from: lostflower4 on April 04, 2008, 23:46:57
And he really thinks that "upbeat" songs are going to suddenly win a bunch of new fans?
Unless they can come up with something as fresh and "with the times" as Wish seemed to be in 1992, they're never going to reach anywhere near that level of commercial success.
And well, releasing Freak Show as a single is not going to get radio airplay. I'm actually one of the "freaks" who kind of like this song, but I can tell when something's not going to be commercially successful.
What was the last "hit" they had anyway? Mint Car? I heard that on the radio a few times, but it never really went anywhere.
Just release a damn double album and make your fans happy. That's the best success you can have anymore.
here.. i have something to say.. 'mint car' is not on my fav. list...
double album sounds great( as has been suggested) maybe commercial-stuff- on one side
then 'curism' on the other,.. (who was it who coined this phrase.. hmmmm...)
- maybe Robert..please all fans, old and new - although i'd prefer no poppy-stuff. 'freak show' i have still not grown to like, the other 2 new played songs in the latest tour i have really grown to love.. .
BRING ON THE DOOM AND GLOOM .. :smth023
Totally agree, gloom & doom for me, IT'S ABOUT TIME
But I have to say, it really wouldn't surpise me if they'd bring out the commercial side (first).
Wrong Number got tons of airplay here, but I doubt it charted on anything other than the modern rock charts.
Really though, just put it all out. Don't debate it. Just turn the stupid thing in.
doom and gloom for me too, but I agree that it should be a double cd release, one cd poppy the other for the real Cure fans :smth023
i prefer a darker sound
i miss the old Cure
I'd like ABINK as a single, and 32 B sides!
If you look at their track record since Disintegration, the B sides definitely win out!
just joking
but I do believe that Robert's over analysing steals from the projects. I can't believe how good Seventeen Seconds is for a 14 day production, or whatever it was.
Just release what you like best Robert. (If you want to be back on the radio, you need a new look too! scrap the bloated Liz Taylor appeal)
Quote from: j on April 04, 2008, 21:42:37
"There's some very, very downbeat seven-minute songs and some very upbeat ones," singer Robert Smith says. "One voice is saying, 'Put out the most commercial-sounding CD and draw people into the Cure world again.' There's another voice saying, 'f*ck that, let's just put out the doom and gloom.'"
WTF?
THIS IS THE EXACT SAME THING HE SAID ABOUT THE LAST ALBUM!
ALAS, THEN HE RELEASED THE "COMMERCIAL" ONES...
:-D
Quote from: Janko on April 06, 2008, 08:25:54
Quote from: j on April 04, 2008, 21:42:37
"There's some very, very downbeat seven-minute songs and some very upbeat ones," singer Robert Smith says. "One voice is saying, 'Put out the most commercial-sounding CD and draw people into the Cure world again.' There's another voice saying, 'f*ck that, let's just put out the doom and gloom.'"
WTF?
THIS IS THE EXACT SAME THING HE SAID ABOUT THE LAST ALBUM!
ALAS, THEN HE RELEASED THE "COMMERCIAL" ONES...
:-D
During the interview on the Trilogy DVD, he said their next album might be the "heaviest album ever made".
And then it wasn't even close. Yep, it sounds like the same old story. :?
AND ONE MORE THING - NO WAY THEY CAN PUT 33 SONGS ON A DOUBLE ALBUM!
EVEN IF THEY PUT OUT 3 SINGLES...
Quote from: Janko on April 06, 2008, 09:57:22AND ONE MORE THING - NO WAY THEY CAN PUT 33 SONGS ON A DOUBLE ALBUM!
EVEN IF THEY PUT OUT 3 SINGLES...
There are 18 songs on the (remastered) Kiss Me CD.
I think it's possible, but I'm guessing that Robert is way too picky to put everything out like that, even if it would fit on 2 discs.
Quote from: lostflower4 on April 06, 2008, 10:27:11
AND ONE MORE THING - NO WAY THEY CAN PUT 33 SONGS ON A DOUBLE ALBUM!
maybe they'll mostly offer us very short songs/mixes this time, like the 'hello i love you' slight return mix version - i bet you can fit a lot of 11 second songs on a double cd. :P
(ok, stupid, i know)
Yes, doom and gloom!!! Please Robert.... :oops:
I wonder if he meant that he's looking for the "other person mixed album for the label' that was gonna be the single and forgot to mention that and the plan for the "real" mixed by him double album.. please let it be the case.... please.....
I just don't get why there is even a debate. I can't imagine most of the sales go to commercial success - surely it must be essentially to fans who have stayed on? why even bother?
a double CD,
a single CD
probably some radio edit versions
likely a killer set of B sides
all we are missing is a duet CD with Ashley Simpson,
and a latin version of the release for a perfect crossover success formula!
:P
actually, I'd probably get them all!!
Erik
Quote from: Erik on April 06, 2008, 18:35:12
I just don't get why there is even a debate. I can't imagine most of the sales go to commercial success - surely it must be essentially to fans who have stayed on? why even bother?
a double CD,
a single CD
probably some radio edit versions
likely a killer set of B sides
all we are missing is a duet CD with Ashley Simpson,
and a latin version of the release for a perfect crossover success formula!
:P
actually, I'd probably get them all!!
Erik
a duet with Ashley Simpson??? :smth078
..I'd not even use it as a coaster.
Quote from: scatcat on April 07, 2008, 04:10:15
a duet with Ashley Simpson??? :smth078
..I'd not even use it as a coaster.
LOL!
( ;)of course - I'm just referencing old rumours of their collaboration.)