4:13 Dream! I hope Robert was joking about the "we think" part!
4.13 DREAM
8/21/2008 4:20:13 PM - by CURE:ROBERT
Summary: THE NEW ALBUM IS CALLED 4.13 DREAM
AND IT WILL BE RELEASED ON OCTOBER 13TH... WE THINK! »
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*Sigh*
A truly awful title.
I was getting used to the Dream 13 title, quite liked it too. But the important thing is that it is finally going to be released in October... hopefully. :roll: :-D
Glad to know I'm not the only one who thinks that title is hideous.
Luckily, the title of a thing has little bearing on, and is little indication of, the merit of the thing itself.... For instance, My Bloody Valentine: A great group with an awful name. I still expect this will be the best Cure album in nearly two decades, but good Lord, what a terrible name....
Honestly, I'd rather they went the title track route. Underneath the Stars would be a pretty nice album title. Hell, Baby Rag Dog Book would be better than 4.13 Dream.... [Actually, Baby Rag Dog Book, both as a song and as the title of one, has really, really grown on me. I love it.] In fact, I'm going to retitle the album Underneath the Stars in iTunes when I get it.... Maybe make some new artwork, if 4.13 Dream is written too prominently....
I like this title: it's simple and original at the same time! :)
I must confess I'm a little sick of the albums called with the title of a song, or with strange title, where we're "forced" to search for the meaning... :-D
!!!
:smth011
what is this? a title? a joke?
i mean, this is really bad !
by the way, music is the important thing... i hope it's better than the title. so far, i like all the new songs "released".
4:13 would suffice.
Anyhooo... it's the music that counts. I can't wait to hear it! :smth020
hmm...interesting... I received an email from the offical site earlier today promoting the release of The Perfect Boy (just a little late..) which included the line, "The Cure release their new (yet to be titled) album on October 11 in Australia"...
(must admit I'm really happy about the October 11th Australian release date, if that's right....)
And I really don't mind what the album's called - like everyone's already said, it's the music that matters and imho this is shaping up to be one great album. Give me it!!...pleease.....
:? :? :?
I hope that the contents will be better than the packaging !
8)
Quote from: Bloodflower on August 22, 2008, 07:09:48
For instance, My Bloody Valentine: A great group with an awful name.
I have to disagree with you on the whole MBV thing... it's great name for a band, I think at least.
But anyway, 4:13 would have been a better title. I used to like it when they had the title of the album as the title of the final song on the album. I'm thinking 'The 13th' (from WMS) would have been well suited to this album, haha. 4.13 Dream sounds silly, and it rhymes which makes it even silliar. But I guess their last album title didn't have any imagination to it at all (being self-titled), so at least this is a little more imaginative!!
4:13 would have sufficed and i agree that the rhyme makes it silly.
now it kind of sounds like they couldn't decide what to call it and just ended up putting all the ingredients in the soup.
anyway i'm not bothered by the album name/artwork at this point, it seems like a very small problem to me (if a problem at all).
Quote from: japanesebaby on August 22, 2008, 19:28:00
anyway i'm not bothered by the album name/artwork at this point, it seems like a very small problem to me (if a problem at all).
Yep, the name is the less important. Only music matters, and so far, it looks like an awesome album. Underneath the stars, A boy I never knew and The Only One are truly gorgeous.
For me the album title isn't important. It's the content that matters - the music :)
Hope it will really released on that date. And i think that the cover art isn't the final one :)
I'm reall looking forward to it :D
So I was wrong. :lol:
Not trying to be a dick but why exactly do people hate the title? I think its gotta nice ring to it.
Quote from: pussycat on August 22, 2008, 03:19:22
Summary: THE NEW ALBUM IS CALLED 4.13 DREAM
The sad fact is - I don't care anymore.
I'm so disappointed by the heard songs that I don't think I'll buy the album.
:?
There is no defending that album title, I'm sorry. It is terrible. I was getting rather re-inspired by the recent live touring version of the band. The singles sounded great onstage most nights. Somehow that excitement has not been getting translated to the recorded material. I have been completely disappointed in the latest singles, particularly "Sleep When I'm Dead" which sounded so robust in the live context but fails utterly on record. The artwork in my opinion since Bloodflowers has been extremely poorly conceived. Hell, I even hate the font the band have been using for their logo these past few albums. What has happened? I am not so enamored anymore with the prospect of a new album looming. My enthusiasm wanes with each new release and exclamatory UPDATE! from Robert.
Thankfully certain brave souls from the board and beyond recorded many of the recent tour gigs, so at least I have those recordings to fall back on if the new album fails to deliver for me. Glad also to see that other folks here aren't so blindly devoted enough to the band that they avoid saying what needs to be said about some of the new Cure stuff being released. If it's poo-worthy, no amount of polish will shine it up.
Dream 4.13 for chrissakes! :?
Quote from: dsanchez on August 22, 2008, 20:44:51
Quote from: japanesebaby on August 22, 2008, 19:28:00
anyway i'm not bothered by the album name/artwork at this point, it seems like a very small problem to me (if a problem at all).
Yep, the name is the less important. Only music matters, and so far, it looks like an awesome album. Underneath the stars, A boy I never knew and The Only One are truly gorgeous.
That's exactly the point... I'll stick my neck out and hope that it is the best since disintegration...
Quote from: dsanchez on August 22, 2008, 20:44:51Yep, the name is the less important. Only music matters, and so far, it looks like an awesome album. Underneath the stars, A boy I never knew and The Only One are truly gorgeous.
I've heard several people now say that only the music matters. Fine, let's focus on the music for a moment. Sure, 'UTS', 'A Boy I Never Knew' and 'The Only One' are great songs in their LIVE arrangements that we've heard. How can any of you be sure that those live versions of the songs will survive the transition to the studio tracks intact? I thought 'Sleep When I'm Dead' was a powerhouse song the way they performed it live. I couldn't wait to hear the finished studio version. I figured it would be a no-brainer knockout. What I got instead on the official single gutted me to the quick because it sounded so gutless and under-performed. I had to flip the CD case over and make sure I wasn't listening to some demo version of the song. This was not the same song that left me speechless when I heard the live version from Boston.
Sorry if I'm dampening people's parade a bit but, if it is truly about the music then, based solely on the 4 officially-released singles from the upcoming album, my hopes for the quality of the new album are fading fast. None of the recorded singles have retained the potency of their live counterparts. 'Freakshow' and 'The Perfect Boy' come closer than the other two but there is still something "off" about them. The newly-announced album title simply adds salt to an already-opened wound. I truly hope everyone else is vindicated when the album drops in a few months. I just can't see what has so many of you as excited and confident about the upcoming release as you are :smth017.
Maybe he'll change his mind & rename it something else.
Quote from: Cold Colours on August 23, 2008, 07:22:00
Quote from: dsanchez on August 22, 2008, 20:44:51Yep, the name is the less important. Only music matters, and so far, it looks like an awesome album. Underneath the stars, A boy I never knew and The Only One are truly gorgeous.
I've heard several people now say that only the music matters. Sure, UTS, A Boy I Never Knew and The Only One are great songs in their LIVE arrangements that we've heard. How can any of you be sure that those songs will survive the transition to the studio tracks intact? I thought "Sleep When I'm Dead" was a powerhouse song the way they performed it live. I couldn't wait to hear the finished studio version. I figured it would be a no-brainer knockout. What I got instead on the official single gutted me to the quick because it sounded so gutless and under-performed. I had to flip the CD case over and make sure I wasn't listening to some demo version of the song. This was not the same song that left me speechless when I heard the live version from Boston.
Sorry if I'm dampening people's parade but, if it is truly about the music then, based solely on the 4 officially-released singles from the upcoming album, my hopes for the quality of the new album are fading fast. The newly-announced album title simply adds salt to an already-opened wound. I truly hope everyone else is vindicated when the album drops in a few months. I just can't see what has so many of you as excited and confident about the upcoming release as you are :smth017.
Maybe it's a "mix 13" flaw? it will be interesting to see how different the album versions are
I'm going with my interpretation that 4.13 is the time RS woke up [probably in the afternoon LOL] from having a really strange dream either before starting the album, whem making it or just about it. Let's all agree that is the meaning and we'll all be happy little vegemites...
Quote from: nausearockpig on August 23, 2008, 07:56:32
I'm going with my interpretation that 4.13 is the time RS woke up [probably in the afternoon LOL] from having a really strange dream either before starting the album, whem making it or just about it.
How funny! :D
Quote from: Cold Colours on August 23, 2008, 07:22:00
I've heard several people now say that only the music matters. Sure, UTS, A Boy I Never Knew and The Only One are great songs in their LIVE arrangements that we've heard. How can any of you be sure that those songs will survive the transition to the studio tracks intact? I thought "Sleep When I'm Dead" was a powerhouse song the way they performed it live. I couldn't wait to hear the finished studio version. I figured it would be a no-brainer knockout. What I got instead on the official single gutted me to the quick because it sounded so gutless and under-performed. I had to flip the CD case over and make sure I wasn't listening to some demo version of the song. This was not the same song that left me speechless when I heard the live version from Boston.
Sorry if I'm dampening people's parade but, if it is truly about the music then, based solely on the 4 officially-released singles from the upcoming album, my hopes for the quality of the new album are fading fast. The newly-announced album title simply adds salt to an already-opened wound. I truly hope everyone else is vindicated when the album drops in a few months. I just can't see what has so many of you as excited and confident about the upcoming release as you are :smth017.
well what can i say? other than i could have written the very same thing.... under-performed is exactly the word.
when i said i don't care about the title at this point it's because i really don't. but that doesn't mean i had any strong confidence in the upcoming album either.
(i'm looking forward to the next deluxe releases a thousand times more than to the new album. although how convenient that the deluxe releases are being delayed by this album thing... aarghh. :x ;))
Quote from: silversand on August 22, 2008, 21:57:39
For me the album title isn't important. It's the content that matters - the music :)
Hope it will really released on that date. And i think that the cover art isn't the final one :)
I'm reall looking forward to it :D
I agree! ;)
I reckon that the content of an album is the most important factor [otherwise, what's the point of the album in the first place?], but in saying that the title should reflect the content, mood or theme of the music contained therein.
Imagine if Disintegration was called Sunny Days or Lovesong or Spoon or 1989 The Album, or any number of non-descriptive titles which do not imply sad painful feelings...
who knows? perhaps one of the songs refers specifically to those numbers and the word "Dream"
Let's wait and see kids.
Bring on the new record, the remasters and the DVDs etc.. oh and the Jane's Addiction box set that's coming... oh yeah good couple of months for the pig!!
Quote from: Padme on August 23, 2008, 08:14:14
Quote from: nausearockpig on August 23, 2008, 07:56:32
I'm going with my interpretation that 4.13 is the time RS woke up [probably in the afternoon LOL] from having a really strange dream either before starting the album, whem making it or just about it.
How funny! :D
Very interesting interpretation :smth023....it could be really a "smittish" thing!!! :-D
Anyway, the title is not so important....let's think about the songs! The album is coming!!!! :rocker
Yeah, Robin seems to have a habit of changing his mind. "Smittish" - I like that! Sounds like British! Ha!
Quote from: Padme on August 23, 2008, 18:22:52
Yeah, Robin seems to have a habit of changing his mind.
robin who? :)
Quote from: nausearockpig on August 23, 2008, 07:56:32
I'm going with my interpretation that 4.13 is the time RS woke up [probably in the afternoon LOL] from having a really strange dream either before starting the album, whem making it or just about it.
I think the same and reminds me of The Head on the door era...
After all, Sleep when I´m dead is from those years, right?
Quote from: japanesebaby on August 23, 2008, 19:10:52
Quote from: Padme on August 23, 2008, 18:22:52
Yeah, Robin seems to have a habit of changing his mind.
robin who? :)
Robert's nickname... I'm sorry to confuse you, I won't refer him as that. Look in the Wish tourbook, I believe.
Quote from: patitodark on August 23, 2008, 21:20:41I think the same and reminds me of The Head on the door era...
After all, Sleep when I´m dead is from those years, right?
I think that I read that it was The Only One that was from previous sessions.. ha ha Freakshow kind of reminds me of Close To Me... imagine Close To Me written without any keyboards.... oh and a mad wah wah as the main guitar part...
I think that the name isn't great but i'm so excited about the new album that i don't care about it!
It could be out in 50 days if there are no more delays! :-D
Yes, the title of the album doesn't matter, it's the music that does. I'm sure we'll all get use to 4.13 (as the title) but for some reason when I see it, I keep thinking of the song title "Six Different Ways?" "13 Different Ways..."
Gee I wonder if it's gonna have 13 songs on it??
Robert corrected it to "4:13 Dream"
it's a little bit more meaningful.
i prefer it to 4.13....
Quote from: nausearockpig on August 25, 2008, 08:58:20
Gee I wonder if it's gonna have 13 songs on it??
Haha! It probably will, huh? :D
4 guys, 13th studio album or 4 guys, 13 songs.???
I was all geared up for it being called 4:13! The added Dream bit seems a tad odd to me, but then thats The Cure. Whatever it is and what ever the LP contains, I'll buy it, and most likely I'll hate everything on it - until I have listened to it over and over again, and the music becomes ingrained into my very being. I really thought this album would have a more 'techno-y' sound to it. But so far the singles aren't really leaning to that kinda thing, but then they are mixes, (am I worng or am I wrong???!!) and the LP versions may be more techno-y. I think I got this idea about the techno sound from the tour, before the band came on there was this music played that had a techno-y feel to it, and I just kinda assumed that this was the new sound for the LP... time will tell if I'm a complete idiot or not!!!
Actually, "4:13 Dream" doesn't sound bad at all to me... Even though it would probably make more sense as song-title than as an album-title.
Anyway, the "4:13" part immediately gets me thinking of "10:15", which is good and bad at the same time. "10.15" is certainly one of The Cure's classics but to have it as a standard could prove to be too much for the new material... Because so far, none of the new songs has convinced me that The Cure "still have it".
Quote from: japanesebaby on August 23, 2008, 19:10:52
Quote from: Padme on August 23, 2008, 18:22:52
Yeah, Robin seems to have a habit of changing his mind.
robin who? :)
Robin Smithood? Steals from the good-hearing to give to the deaf... At least, it seems to be what he's doing now. :-D
Quote from: nausearockpig on August 24, 2008, 07:25:08
Quote from: patitodark on August 23, 2008, 21:20:41I think the same and reminds me of The Head on the door era...
After all, Sleep when I´m dead is from those years, right?
I think that I read that it was The Only One that was from previous sessions.. ha ha Freakshow kind of reminds me of Close To Me... imagine Close To Me written without any keyboards.... oh and a mad wah wah as the main guitar part...
Well, "Sleep When I'm Dead" has definitely been referred to as being a lost song from the "Head on the Door" sessions... Don't know about "The Only One", though.
Quote from: revolt on September 01, 2008, 11:27:03
Robin Smithood? Steals from the good-hearing to give to the deaf... At least, it seems to what he's doing now. :-D
ahahahahah!!!!! :-D :smth043 :smth044 :smth005 :smth023
The title should've been 4:13 Sunday Morning.