No doubt someone has already become aware of this but....
http://craigjparker.blogspot.com/
If indeed time shows they are no longer with Universal I believe this to be a massive cause for celebration!
Assuming of course this proves to be the case what next?
Reissues/Dark album finally released?
Or will TMU still hold the rights?
Who left who? The old 'mutual consent' perhaps?!
Hope I haven't set myself up for disappointment!
Discuss....
Well, I think British band should release their records on a British label, as EMI (http://www.emirecords.co.uk/) for example. of course its not the only reason why I want The Cure to be release on it. But look, EMI has a lot great bands on it as Depeche Mode, Blur, Coldplay, Pink Floyd etc-etc.
I never liked Geffen politics, and way they promote albums at all.
But bloody hell, who cares? :lol: I think its not influence on a band itself where to record albums or release it. I think its more financial question, than creative or smth.
Ah never mind I'll just be abit happy if its true :smth023
Quote from: wish-man on June 07, 2009, 02:05:35
Well, I think British band should release their records on a British label, as EMI (http://www.emirecords.co.uk/) for example. of course its not the only reason why I want The Cure to be release on it. But look, EMI has a lot great bands on it as Depeche Mode, Blur, Coldplay, Pink Floyd etc-etc.
i don't know what you mean. i don't think the "nationality" of the record label has anything to do with anything here. and most of all, let's face it, EMI is no different than Universal what comes to big record label policies: they are both big corporations who are just interested in making money with they artists. that's simply what they are. the fact that no big labels care about the quality of music they put out these days (by releasing very badly mastered/volume-destroyed albums) speaks a lot.
and by the way a lot of artists have recently started to voice out their feelings about (big) labels in general, indirectly related to how the big record labels are fighting the illegals downloading. there was lots of news about this after the piratebay court case some time ago. the record labels keep up the fight because they are too slow to change and adapt to 21st century and saying that downloading is killing the profits. and who's profits? the artists'? no, they own. after the piratebay court case several artists started to speak up how the labels are actually paying them a really shitty amount of royalties, compared to all the profits that the labels themselves make all the time. hey, no surprise to anyone.
so there you go: big labels are just money making machines, they have nothing to do with music or art. and they are not even interested in music or art or care about it. thankfully, the record companies as we know them are starting to be dinosaurs that will be extinct after some time. the sad thing is that it seems that in their death struggle they are determined to take as many people with them as they can. so there will be casualties while they are going down. but in the end, they will lose. unless they start adapting right now.
that's why the best labels have always been small independent labels. they are the only ones who always cared and who still care. i could give many examples of artists with whom things started to go down (quality-wise) after they changed form a small label to a big one. but hey just compare how things were when the cure were on fiction? there you have it.
so either the cure should choose a small independent label that would give them complete freedom to do whatever they want.
or, since it's 2009, who needs record labels anymore? just look what trent reznor has been doing. other people too. just go and release your music yourself. don't let the big corporations get inbetween and rip you off - just do it yourself. that would be the way to go for a band like the cure. :smth023
anyway, let's hope they get rid of geffen without any extra sh*t. fingers crossed...
BTW, if anyone would like to watch a movie about The Pirate Bay, you can download it here: http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4729001/STEAL_THIS_FILM___TRIAL_EDITION and 2nd part: http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/3951349/Steal_This_Film_II.Xvid.avi
It's not official material. They've published it by themselves @ PiB :smth023
Quote from: japanesebaby on June 07, 2009, 08:03:35
so either the cure should choose a small independent label that would give them complete freedom to do whatever they want.
- just do it yourself. that would be the way to go for a band like the cure. :smth023
Yes come home and start up a new Fiction!
Robert starting a label would only mean that he'd have even more to take his time away from working on material for his band.
Much better would be for them to sign with 4AD or Beggar's Banquet.
Personally, I'd be pretty shocked (not in a bad sense) if Bob & the band went for it for themselves in any sort of Trent like direction, don't see it happening. Failing that though I would agree to signing with someone like 4AD, Domino, Fat Cat, something possibly along those lines.
EMI & Geffen are singing from the same hym sheet I imagine so I don't believe a move to EMI would have any great effect(This is the company who had dispute/ fallout with Radiohead!!). Although I don't neccesarily agree with wish mans point on being British based I can to a certain degree understand where he is coming from.
To me an ideal situation would be for ALL artists on 'majors' to allow their current contracts to roll on without renewal to the point where these dinosaurs had no clients left to live off & fade away in some dinosaur fashion. Easier said than done clearly!
From a selfish perspective (no apologies!) I believe my opinions on current Cure happenings present & future would be better served by a fresh start! It can be pretty easy for some to blame the label for everything under the sun although I think its clear they are not blameless. I'd feel more at ease judging recordings, mixing, tour & promotion based issues when & if The Cure depart Universal.
Its been coming for a while - what with Roberts(pretty deserved) rantings over all affairs TMU - from no double release to 4 singles to lack of promotion to royalties to the 'don't buy EP from itunes fiasco'. Of course thats just taking into account some issues over the last 18 months or so, doubtless there are others.
Suppose we'll have to wait a while longer for anything to be confirmed - something we're all pretty used to with Geffen/TMU.
It could be the problem for the curefans, because if there's no label there's no pressure on the band to make new music and release new albums. And Robert is quite laze guy ...
:smth011
Quote from: Janko on June 09, 2009, 14:25:44
It could be the problem for the curefans, because if there's no label there's no pressure on the band to make new music and release new albums. And Robert is quite laze guy ...
:smth011
if the pressure lowers the quality then i'd be in for a five years wait if i could get a true masterpiece for that!!!
for my part i think that the record company really screw up more in terms of audio quality and artist freedom than they fix by promoting or speeding up the process! :?
so i hope they can pull it off without by themselves without some money hungry idiots pushing them. :smth023