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Title: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: dsanchez on February 24, 2022, 10:20:02
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: dsanchez on February 24, 2022, 13:50:30
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Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on February 24, 2022, 16:47:39
So he dared... I must confess that I was on a Ukraine forum for a while. After about 60 posts I asked the admin to delete my profile. It was too intense. Free expression of opinion was severely restricted. That was back in 2014. The history of Russia begins in Ukraine. But that is all! At the moment I'm quite upset and I'm thinking of someone who lives near Zaporozhye. And I thank Japan in particular for wanting to participate in the sanctions.
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on March 06, 2022, 20:07:33
Better late than never goes a Russian proverb. 🤨



PS: To be fair, it should be said that the EU was (are) too slow and NATO too hesitant. This refers to the former civil war in Yugoslavia, for example, and to necessary reforms in Brussels. Unfortunately, I have to say that this policy of 'doing nothing' also made massacres like the one in Srebrenica possible. In addition, Putin must have historical understanding. This year we commemorate the Battle of Stalingrad (eighty years ago) and in two years the end of the civil war in Russia (100 years ago). So the intervention in Ukraine is not accidental.
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: dsanchez on March 07, 2022, 16:00:51
A very good explanation on why we are discussing this topic today:

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on March 07, 2022, 19:05:39
I hope you're still alive tomorrow...😟

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on March 09, 2022, 11:48:32
QuoteVideo released by Ukrainian Ground Forces on Tuesday showed destroyed Russian vehicles in Sumy region.

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: dsanchez on March 12, 2022, 12:16:41
Biden says world must 'strive to prevent' World War III

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on March 13, 2022, 10:06:38
Hmm...diplomatic crises and regional conflicts led to the First World War. The assassination in Sarajevo was only the trigger. 🤔
You can still watch this video without hesitation.


PS: I refrained from sharing another video. It already had over a million clicks and showed, among other things, a little boy from near Charkov who was hit in the head and had to have emergency surgery. I hope he's on the mend...
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on March 17, 2022, 11:19:22
The 'Z' possibly stands for (Volodymyr) Zelensky.

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: dsanchez on March 18, 2022, 18:22:40
QuoteVladimir Putin warned he would cleanse Russia of the "**** and traitors" he accuses of working covertly for the U.S. and its allies. He accused the West of trying to destroy Russia. Putin spoke in a televised video conference from a residence outside Moscow on Wednesday. (Russian with English subtitles, video source is RU-RTR)

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on March 20, 2022, 09:52:44
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on March 29, 2022, 16:25:47
Many vehicles carry a double Z. Is that the offensive on the second try?

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on March 30, 2022, 11:15:32
The Bundeswehr helmets have probably arrived...

QuoteUkrainian soldiers inspected a damaged village on Tuesday in the Kyiv region retaken from Russian forces.

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Ulrich on April 08, 2022, 13:28:12
Here is the official video for 'Hey Hey Rise Up', Pink Floyd's new Ukraine fundraiser feat Andriy Khlyvnyuk of Boombox.
Stream / download at http://pinkfloyd.lnk.to/HeyHeyRiseUp

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on April 09, 2022, 11:10:40
Ursula has b*lls of st**l. Respect!

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on April 11, 2022, 16:36:06
Note the fresh graves. A picture sometimes says more than a thousand words.

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on April 11, 2022, 19:10:19
Battle scenes from Eastern Ukraine (graphic content; not for children).

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Ulrich on April 13, 2022, 15:21:13
Can't say the Ukrainian government is acting very wisely here...

https://www.t-online.de/nachrichten/deutschland/innenpolitik/id_92008410/ukraine-laedt-bundespraesident-steinmeier-aus-dieser-affront-wird-folgen-haben.html

QuoteDeutschland öffentlich zu brüskieren, hilft niemandem. Die Regierung mag zu zögerlich in ihrer Unterstützung sein und das kann man ihr vorwerfen. Aber an der Frage, auf wessen Seite sie in diesem Krieg steht, gibt es keine Zweifel. Die Absage wird es Bundeskanzler Olaf Scholz nicht erleichtern, sondern erschweren, mehr Hilfe zu leisten. Wenn er jetzt der Forderung des ukrainischen Botschafters nachkommt, in die Ukraine zu reisen, fällt er damit dem Bundespräsidenten in den Rücken.

Es sollte auch nicht ganz vergessen werden, dass Deutschland nach den USA vor dem Krieg der zweitgrößte Geldgeber für die Ukraine war. Wer Deutschland öffentlich brüskiert, riskiert auch, dass sich die Stimmung in der Bevölkerung wendet. 
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on April 13, 2022, 16:39:33
Quote from: Alexander Müller (FDP)Everything is secret.


PS: Let's stick to the facts: "Invited" were Mrs. Merkel and Mr. Sarkozy. EU representatives, including U. von der Leyen, appeared - by the way, not with 'empty hands', which Ukraine obviously values. The German President has no real powers. He should and can only moderate/represent. In addition, Mr. Steinmeier only recently publicly admitted his own "failure". Only he stands like no other for the policy of appeasement and maintenance of the status quo, not only towards the Russian Federation, but generally towards states where human rights are violated on a daily basis. The justification given was always that 'we also have to talk to these states'. We now see where this has led. In other words: he should actually take responsibility and give up his office, because he stands for a different time. To say 'we were wrong and just carry on' is grotesque.

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Ulrich on April 14, 2022, 11:14:39
Quote from: MeltingMan on April 13, 2022, 16:39:33The justification given was always that 'we also have to talk to these states'. We now see where this has led. In other words: he should actually take responsibility and give up his office, because he stands for a different time. To say 'we were wrong and just carry on' is grotesque.

Well if that's the case, our whole government should "give up office". Plus many other countries' governments too. (And btw, Ukraine and Russia are also still "talking" with each other!)

Let's just hope the relations between those countries will go back to "normal" after this unpleasant "affront"!
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on April 19, 2022, 20:22:01
QuoteThe 43rd Artillery Brigade demonstrated the work of the 2S7 "Pion" self-propelled artillery.

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on April 23, 2022, 10:27:25

To cut a long story short: I'm definitely in favor of a lend-lease program like the one that existed for the Soviet Union at the time. It was crucial to the war. The Federal Republic is already helping in a number of ways, only too little is being said about it. Added to this are the demands of the Ukrainian government in 'war rhetoric'. But we don't want to be drawn into the conflict, and I think I can speak for many Germans on that. The opponents have to work this out among themselves. They have the potential to do so. There is no doubt that Putin has repeatedly crossed the red line. In addition, fears are fueled that have a significant impact on public opinion. We need to analyze very carefully what has gone wrong since 1990. Relentless...
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Ulrich on April 23, 2022, 12:06:15
Quote from: MeltingMan on April 23, 2022, 10:27:25But we don't want to be drawn into the conflict, and I think I can speak for many Germans on that. The opponents have to work this out among themselves.

I do agree. It's a thin line between "helping" and "being drawn into it".
The most dominant partner within the Nato is the USA and they're across the ocean, thus our "safety" won't mean as much to them as it means to us.
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on May 03, 2022, 16:38:11
QuoteMore than half of the M777 howitzer artillery units promised to Ukraine by the Pentagon have been delivered, according to US Defence officials.

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on May 05, 2022, 16:41:08
Not the best picture quality, but I think it goes quite well with the previous post.

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on May 06, 2022, 19:42:08
QuoteZmiinyi Island, or Snake Island, is where Ukrainian soldiers reportedly told a Russian warship crew to go "f***" themselves early in the war, a story that was commemorated by a postage stamp released in April.

When the war is over, I would like to go on vacation there. 😎

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on May 09, 2022, 10:30:59
Note the blast... exploding ammo inside the tank.

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on May 10, 2022, 11:30:34
Excellent...

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on May 15, 2022, 19:46:37
Perfect...

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on May 17, 2022, 16:39:30
 :smth023

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on May 19, 2022, 16:25:18
QuoteWorld Embroidery Day, known locally as Vyshyvanka, takes place in Ukraine on 21st May. The holiday promotes the tradition of creating and wearing embroidered Ukrainian clothes known as vyshyvanka.

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on May 26, 2022, 11:22:48
Quote from: WikipediaThe FH155-1 field howitzer is a wheeled field howitzer with a caliber of 155 mm that was developed in the late 1960s for the armies of various European NATO countries. About 500 pieces were produced in Europe until 1982, and Japan also produced the weapon under license.

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on May 27, 2022, 17:15:56
Here's the sequel...if you will.

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on June 01, 2022, 19:38:50
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on June 02, 2022, 16:53:09
QuotePro-Russian forces blast Ukrainian city defences with Hyacinth-B field guns near the city of Avdiivka.

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on June 16, 2022, 17:09:05
Finally... I like that Mr Draghi, Mr Macron and Mr Scholz took the night train from Poland.

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on June 22, 2022, 19:54:59
The PzH 2000 finally found their way to the front and have been in action since early morning.

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: dsanchez on June 25, 2022, 16:28:43
London first target if WW3

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on June 28, 2022, 17:25:03
The war continues unabated. Here's a direct hit...

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on June 30, 2022, 09:04:32
QuoteThe Russian 2S4 Tyulpan 240mm mortar carrier only has a range of about 9.6 km and has to be near the front line.


Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on July 24, 2022, 10:06:02
QuoteThe General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine reported that between 24th February and 22nd July, Russia had lost about 39,000 personnel, 1,704 tanks, 3,920 armoured combat vehicles, 863 artillery units, 251 multiple launch rocket systems, 113 air defence systems, 221 warplanes, 188 helicopters, 713 drones, 167 cruise missiles, 15 warships, 2,781 motor vehicles and fuel tankers, and 72 units of special equipment.

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on August 08, 2022, 18:54:40
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: dsanchez on August 14, 2022, 12:45:00
Posing for Vogue during a war...

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: dsanchez on August 14, 2022, 22:06:21
agree 100% with the journalist opinion:

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on September 10, 2022, 10:45:47
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on September 16, 2022, 18:26:47
Russia still has 400 of these 'monsters' in reserve. Only one has been destroyed so far. A total of eight are still in use (source: Wikipedia). The large caliber belies the short firing range with normal ammunition, only about 10 km.

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on September 19, 2022, 11:31:06
16:10 😄  :smth023 

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: dsanchez on September 21, 2022, 13:19:15
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: dsanchez on October 10, 2022, 13:55:48
Putin's response to the Crimea bridge blast

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on December 01, 2022, 16:15:30
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on December 02, 2022, 17:03:19
QuoteThis footage released by the Kastus Kalinouski Regiment, a regiment of Belarusian fighters fighting for Ukraine, shows pro-Ukrainian forces firing a 12.7-mm Browning M2 machine gun at Russian positions.

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on December 05, 2022, 16:46:10
QuoteThe blasts early Monday struck the airbase near the city of Engels, more than 600 kilometers inside Russian territory.

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on December 17, 2022, 11:00:37
'Hit and Run' tactics against a powerful opponent.  :neutral-face

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on January 09, 2023, 11:06:56
QuoteRussia seems to need allies to invade Ukraine.

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on January 24, 2023, 11:28:15
Pictures reminiscent of the First World War. :neutral-face

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on January 25, 2023, 16:26:51
8:20 Here you can clearly see the ring arrangement of the ammunition - a disadvantage of older Soviet Russian tanks.

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on February 03, 2023, 08:41:39
QuoteFreddy Versluys has a big warehouse full of second-hand tanks for sale. The German-made Leopard 1 tanks have brought him into the spotlight over the past few days, as he has engaged in a public battle with Belgian Defence Minister Ludivine Dedonder over the possibility of sending them to Ukraine.

Dedonder has said the government has explored the idea of buying back tanks to send them to Ukraine. But she has blasted the prices quoted as "unreasonable" and "extremely high". Tanks sold for 10-15,000 euros each are being offered for sale at 500,000 euros, despite not being operational, she has said.
🤑 'Kriegsgewinnler'...not very flattering, I'll admit. It's time they came to the front. That's what they were designed and built for. Now they have to prove themselves.   

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on February 06, 2023, 08:32:27
QuoteTwo Ukrainian brothers turned cannoneers fire German-made howitzers in the Donbas frontline.

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on February 08, 2023, 11:12:04
The armor of the aged Leopard 1 no longer meets today's standards. There must certainly still be improved if the crew is to survive. The cannon, on the other hand, is excellent.

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on February 25, 2023, 17:13:56
This is just a start. It took long enough. Watch out for the big cats!

QuotePoland has delivered its first Leopard tanks to Ukraine, the country's president and its defence minister told a meeting of the National Security Council on Friday (February 24).

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Ulrich on February 26, 2023, 18:55:23
70-year-old tanks? Boy-oh-boy...  :1f633:  :1f635:

https://www.t-online.de/nachrichten/ukraine/id_100134992/russland-schickt-panzer-btr-50-in-die-ukraine-sie-sind-so-alt-wie-putin.html

QuoteRussland schickt offenbar Panzer aus der Zeit des Kalten Krieges in den Angriffskrieg gegen die Ukraine. Das legen Beiträge russischer Militärblogger im Messenger-Dienst Telegram nahe, die das Kriegsgerät in Bewegung zeigen.

"Russlands antike BTR-50 Transportpanzer wurden aus den Lagern geholt und auf dem Weg in die Ukraine gesichtet", schreibt der Militärblog "Defence Blog".
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on February 27, 2023, 09:04:44
QuoteThe President of Ukraine held a meeting with the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia
:1f62e:

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on March 02, 2023, 16:46:37
Very good hit location, only the course of the front is very reminiscent of that of Demyansk in 1943.  :1f631:

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on March 04, 2023, 11:17:49
After reading some irritating comments, I have to say something here: I think there is a misunderstanding in Kiev and Washington about the dilemma in which Germany and France find themselves. This is the only way to understand that Berlin and Paris pushed Ukraine into negotiations with the Kremlin. Why sacrifice something that has grown over thirty years and beyond? I think Olaf Scholz was trying to refute the accusation of "blackmail" in the tank issue with this trip. As far as his "hesitancy" is concerned, I must remind you that the USA only intervened in World War I and World War II after a long hesitation. Of course, one has to admit that Berlin initially underestimated the Ukrainians' will to persevere. However, I have no idea how Kiev intends to achieve its war goals.  :?

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on March 08, 2023, 11:36:44
And we thought THESE pictures will not come back. It is very reminiscent of the Demyansk bottleneck.

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on March 13, 2023, 11:57:07
I would return all the Oscars.

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on March 19, 2023, 09:21:20
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on March 22, 2023, 20:06:01
QuoteThe bloc aims to deliver 1 million 155-millimeter artillery shells to Ukraine in the next 12 months as well as replenish EU stocks.

Apparently, the Ukrainians use up to 9,000 pieces of this caliber... a day.

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on March 25, 2023, 19:17:54
QuoteREPORT: U.S. PROBING SWISS BANKS COMPLIANCE WITH SANCTIONS;
:smth023

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on March 28, 2023, 12:43:02
Rare shots of a French TRF1 in action.

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on March 30, 2023, 19:55:36
Bakhmut is becoming the Verdun of the East. Here is a captured gun in action. Hold on guys.

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Ulrich on March 31, 2023, 16:14:38
Quote from: MeltingMan on March 30, 2023, 19:55:36Bakhmut is becoming the Verdun of the East.

I'm saddened to hear this. So many lives lost.  :'(
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on April 04, 2023, 16:30:06
QuotePutin's defeat to be expected in October - an interview with military expert Keupp

In an interview with ZDFheute live, military expert Keupp paints a disastrous picture of the Russian army. He expects Ukraine to win in October. Is the Russian army in such bad shape that it suffered a defeat in October's war of aggression against Ukraine? Military expert Marcus Keupp assumes this and explains the reasons live in an interview with ZDFheute:

According to estimates by military analysts, Russia will soon have lost 10,000 heavy weapon systems and tanks, according to Keupp. That is a rate of attrition that Russia cannot sustain. "It's actually only a matter of time before they run out of reserves."

In addition, the repurchase of 25 Leopard 2 from Switzerland by Rheinmetall is as good as done. After being put back into service, they are destined for Ukraine.  :smth023
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on April 24, 2023, 16:51:21
I am pleased that the two blocks that have this beautiful exterior are still standing. Hold on guys. The opponent burns his last reserves in Bakhmut. You make history; I pray for you... :angel


For comparison: post #46. Then two have been destroyed so far.

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on April 29, 2023, 11:10:48
I am sceptical. Should Bakhmut fall, the offensive towards the Sea of Azov is in jeopardy anyway, and especially with regard to the First World War, there are plenty of examples of failed offensives on both sides if certain branches of arms/alliance partners do not work together. Ukraine is therefore well advised when, where and whether to attack at all.

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on May 06, 2023, 11:21:27
"The future is the past" once said the great Sören Kierkegaard. Who would have thought that Leopard 1/2's could possibly do side by side what they were once designed to do.  :smth023 

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on May 09, 2023, 19:28:39
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on May 20, 2023, 11:38:28
There may be an encirclement here. This reminds me of the battle-hardened 6th Army, which once took months to take Stalingrad. They were badly prepared for house-to-house fighting and there were too few high-angle weapons. Nevertheless, I would say everything has been done right so far when I see these pictures.

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on June 03, 2023, 11:59:54
QuoteThe state-owned Swiss armaments company RUAG would like to be able to export 96 Leopard 1 main battle tanks. The decision should come soon.

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Ulrich on June 06, 2023, 15:11:42
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65818705

QuoteA huge dam in the Russian-controlled area of southern Ukraine has been destroyed, unleashing a flood of water.

Ukraine's military and Nato have accused Russia of blowing up the dam, while Russia has blamed Ukraine.

Thousands of people are being evacuated from communities in the surrounding areas, with fears that any flooding could be catastrophic.

 :'( 
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on June 07, 2023, 16:18:43
Quote from: UlrichUkraine's military and Nato have accused Russia of blowing up the dam, while Russia has blamed Ukraine.

The news situation changes every hour, but first I had to think of the 'Dambusters'. But wait, wasn't there something about 'underwater sabotage' and no one claims it was?!  :? However, man-made floods have already occurred in earlier conflicts - of course to hinder or harm the opponent.
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on June 09, 2023, 12:29:29
Quote from: P. RonzheimerSome questions almost annoyed him [Zelenskyy].

I would be too if I were him. Ukraine urgently needs a military success and the enemy has learned from it. And then you have to ask yourself what else is subject to military secrecy. By the way, as early as 2014, I was of the opinion that B-52s should symbolically fly over Crimea, indeed. :1f633:  In theory, Air Defender 23 could establish the necessary air superiority regionally. The first 24 hours are crucial in a counter-offensive, I don't like using that word very much anymore. In short, both sides have to blame themselves for the media "sausage" of the conflict.
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: nerdiee on June 24, 2023, 12:22:04
I don't understand well what is really happening, but now it seems that a military mutiny has begun in our country .. Prigozhin was accused of a military mutiny .. a special regime was introduced in Moscow and many roads are blocked and disturbing strange things are happening in Rostov, a lot of military equipment and in some places seems to be a shootout?.. i'm very ignorant in this things, i don't watch the news... I don't think this will end well

it looks like a coup d'état or a civil war are coming in Russia,it was very expected, everyone was waiting for it
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Ulrich on June 24, 2023, 13:44:38
Well, the situation is not very clear, especially when watching from afar.

German news site reports this:
QuoteBugayevka befindet sich in der Region Woronesch. Deren gleichnamige Hauptstadt haben die Wagner-Söldner zumindest teilweise unter ihre Kontrolle gebracht, wobei sie offenkundig auf nicht allzu viel Gegenwehr russischer Soldaten und Sicherheitskräfte gestoßen sind.

Prigoschin: "Wir sind Patrioten"
Anzeichen für eine Attacken der russischen Armee auf die Wagner-Söldner geben bislang lediglich Luftangriffe, etwa auf ein Öl-Depot in Woronesch. Das berichten mehrere Militärblogger und Beobachter der Lage in Russland. Auch ein Wagner-Konvoi nahe der Stadt soll getroffen worden sein, wie ein Reuters-Journalist beobachtete.

Prigoschin und seine Wagner-Truppen proben seit Freitagabend den bewaffneten Aufstand gegen die Militärführung in Moskau. Berichten zufolge haben sie dabei neben Woronesch auch die Stadt Rostow am Don unter ihre Kontrolle gebracht. Inzwischen ziehen die Söldner weiter nach Norden, in Richtung Moskau.
https://www.t-online.de/nachrichten/ausland/id_100197278/russland-180-soldaten-von-putin-ergeben-sich-wagner-soeldnern.html


BBC reports:
QuoteYevgeny Prigozhin calls it his "March of Justice". Vladimir Putin says it is a "criminal escapade" and an "armed mutiny". One senior Russian commander has called it "a coup".

Whatever you call it, the Wagner chief has gone for broke to try to topple Russia's military leadership.

This had been brewing. For months there has been very public infighting between Wagner and Russia's ministry of defence over how the war in Ukraine has been fought.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66007017

QuoteA video has emerged of Prigozhin telling a deputy defence minister and a general in Rostov on Friday that until the two main military figures come and talk to him, his mercenaries will block off the city and head for Moscow.

There are reports of a military helicopter being shot down and of a Wagner convoy heading north up the M4 motorway in the Voronezh region north of Rostov.

Prigozhin's quarrel is not with Russian soldiers in Ukraine, but with the "clowns" leading them, he argues. Several generals have appealed for him to calm down, but that seems too late.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66006880
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Ulrich on June 25, 2023, 09:33:17
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-66006142

QuoteYevgeny Prigozhin, the head of the Wagner mercenary group, is to leave Russia for Belarus after calling off his troops' rebellion
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: dsanchez on June 26, 2023, 22:31:57
On the recent events with the Wagner group...
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on June 27, 2023, 12:38:47
The lush green in the pictures is deceptive. The city [Bakhmut] itself looks as if a small atomic bomb fell there. Spooky - no more life. Ammunition must be saved. I think that applies to both sides. Otherwise we have this 'shooting at sparrows with cannons' absurdity. But the fact that you don't have to take cover after every shot, like a year ago on the Ukrainian side, shows how effective you've become.  :frowning:

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on July 05, 2023, 17:36:52
Reports with Sergij Osachuk are rare, like this one, which is 'only' in German. The pressure on the Russians around Bakhmut is being maintained, according to the former governor of the Chernivtsi region. In addition, the enemy has air superiority. What do you say to that, Mr. Stoltenberg?

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on July 13, 2023, 19:32:16
Quote from: WELT-NachrichtenHARD CRITICISM OF NATO: "A cheek to say Ukraine should be more grateful"

To be honest, I don't really like watching shots of Leopard tanks left on the battlefield. For months there was a dispute about sending these tanks. That first and then the question must be allowed how many weapons were actually paid for! Much of the material is only borrowed or even given as a gift. Unfortunately, Putin's remark that the West is fighting to the last Ukrainian is true. On the other hand, it is incomprehensible that aid from the West should be unselfish. I find this expectation false. And on top of that, reconstruction also costs money. And the German reunification was also expensive etc. etc. 🤑
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on July 16, 2023, 11:03:58
She is the queen of the battlefield, according to Stalin. These recordings prove it. The first Leopard 1 should arrive soon.

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on July 24, 2023, 18:13:19
Quote from: WikipediaThe Mod 56 has a number of unique characteristics for a weapon of its caliber, including the ability for its crew to manhandle the gun (due to its light weight), and the capability of being used in the direct fire role. Being a pack howitzer, it is designed to be broken down into 12 parts, each of which can be transported easily.

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on July 31, 2023, 18:24:46
Note the Suwalki Gap at 4:50.

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on August 02, 2023, 18:13:54
Seen often, but the music is really  :cool  this time.

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on August 09, 2023, 17:05:08
Quote from: Stuttgarter ZeitungAccording to a media report, the armaments group Rheinmetall is preparing another export of Leopard main battle tanks to Ukraine.

The company has acquired around 50 older Leopard 1 tanks from the Belgian company OIP Land Systems, the newspaper Handelsblatt reported, citing industry circles.

The "Handelsblatt" reported that the tanks should now be re-equipped at the German locations of the Düsseldorf Rheinmetall Group for use in the Ukraine.

Ultimately, around 30 of the remanufactured tanks could be delivered.
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on August 21, 2023, 15:49:47
Ukrainian artillerymen are becoming more and more precise considering where Luhansk is on the map. They know how fatal it is when only one of those heavy mortars is overlooked. I was impressed by the dense forest and the two rows of trees. I understand why Putin cares so much about the region when he says: "You'll never get Donbass back."

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on November 11, 2023, 12:46:14
News from Bakhmut - the place seems almost forgotten or what is going on there. It is now the case that Western-design tanks that have been hit are towed away, examined and, if possible, repaired.  :smth023


QuoteThe video shows an exercise of 3 fighter tanks Leopard 1 in a sharp shot on the Klietz military training area. Between the practice phases, Lieutenant General Andreas Marlow explains a lot about the elements of the exercise and their participants.

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: dsanchez on November 13, 2023, 14:12:03
Zelensky losing support...

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on December 07, 2023, 17:01:05
QuoteMilitary reconnaissance personnel of the West group of troops in the Kupyansk direction identified fortified strongholds in which manpower and military equipment of the Ukrainian Armed Forces were hiding. After receiving the command to destroy the detected targets, the crew of the Tyulpan self-propelled mortar immediately moved to an unprepared firing position. At the same time, the drone operators indicated a safe route for the mortarmen, and air defense crews covered them from attacks by Ukrainian MLRS and attack drones.


Russia has so far reactivated 50 vehicles of this type. With the current loss rate, you can easily draw on the reserves well into the next decade. How much land area Ukraine will have lost by then can only be guessed at. How does the West plan to make up for its inferiority on the battlefield? Current images of Leopard tanks being disabled show that the Ukrainians also have to learn. The Bundeswehr's crash courses alone are not enough.
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on December 22, 2023, 12:24:37
Quote from: WELT nachrichtenUKRAINE WAR: Large mobilization! Ukrainian army wants to draft an additional 500,000 men

First of all, Mr. Z. should stand for re-election. Otherwise he runs the risk of becoming a dictator and that doesn't help anyone. This war is a tragedy - undoubtedly. It's not about predicting defeat. Russia is superior in almost all respects. There is nothing to interpret. It is good that talks will soon take place in neutral Switzerland. I hope both sides are aware of their responsibility, because the fate of hundreds of thousands of people is at stake here. The mass use of combat drones on the Ukrainian side can only mean that artillery ammunition is being saved or, in fact, is not available. There is also a certain amount of pipe wear. Is Russia ready to negotiate over Crimea? It almost seems so, because they obviously cannot hold on to Donbass and Crimea at the same time. That's the weak point. A rotation procedure for frontline soldiers is mandatory.

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on January 03, 2024, 15:42:03
Quote from: Deutschlandfunk, 02.01.2024As the Green politician Schäfer announced, the 18 Leopard-2 fighting tanks delivered in March last year are very few. On one hand, there are no spare parts, on the other hand, there were mistakes in Ukraine during repair attempts. In a letter to the armaments companies Rheinmetall and Krauss-Maffei Wegmann, Schäfer called for quick remedy. Above all, the missing spare parts would have to be procured. Before Christmas, the green politician had visited a repair workshop in Lithuania together with Defense Minister Pistorius.

Leopards prefer to hunt... warthogs.  ;) There are also successes that are rarely reported (see below). Shouldn't Ukraine be enabled to produce the Leo 1 under license... or Poland or Lithuania in the face of Russian air superiority?

Quote from: WikipediaOne of the Leopard 1A5 tank crews interviewed by French news AFP in November 2023 indicated they had already seen combat, having been able to hit Russian targets from 3.5-5km distance and inflict casualties without the Russians being able to strike back.[77]

 :smth023
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on January 18, 2024, 16:39:41
QuoteCommander Roman and his crew are deployed at the front with a Leopard 2 tank. During a battle they come under heavy fire and are massively damaged. The German-made tank still brings them to safety. The soldiers show ntv exclusively their mistreated military equipment.


The pictures prove it: the Leopard 2 is too heavy for the Ukrainian terrain. So it wasn't very wise to turn away ten Leopard 1s, especially since the cry for weapons from Kiev continues. I don't like the whole sound from there. Added to this is the attitude of the West as a whole and the reporting, not just in the private media, which fluctuates between conscious exaggeration and self-fulfilling prophecies. Citizens really have other concerns! If cruise missiles are actually supplied by the West, it is only a matter of time before missiles fall on Warsaw, Berlin, etc. Seriously...  :pouting-face
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on February 08, 2024, 19:02:48
Quote from: France 24 EnglishVolodymyr Zelensky has named Oleksandr Syrsky as the new commander in chief of Ukraine's armed forces. Syrsky was the commander of the ground forces and one of the two men tipped to suceed Valery Zaluzhny in the months of speculation about the possibility that Zaluzhny would be dismissed.

You don't hear anything from Sergij Osachuk.  :anguished:

In this context, I have to think of 1916. The German Reichstag approved the war loans, also with the approval of the party, which today provides the Chancellor. As a result, the First World War was only extended. In July 1918, the German Reich had the greatest extent. In this respect, the sentence is correct that an empire properly rears up again before it goes down. We know what happened after the ceasefire. The list of (Soviet-)Russian interventions after 1945 is long and ... apparently forgotten. The West not only has the chance, but the obligation to do it better now.
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Ulrich on February 10, 2024, 09:08:31
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68255302

QuoteUS talk show host Tucker Carlson's interview with Russian President Vladimir Putin began with a rambling half-hour lecture on the history of Russia and Ukraine.

Historians say the litany of claims made by Mr Putin are nonsense - representing nothing more than a selective abuse of history to justify the ongoing war in Ukraine.

Regardless of the historical realities, none of Putin's assertions would form a legal justification for his invasion.
:unamused:
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on February 13, 2024, 08:48:40
QuoteTucker Carlson's interview with Russian President Vladimir Putin began with a rambling half-hour lecture on the history of Russia and Ukraine.

This interview is welcome Campaign assistance for Mr. Trump. If R. Reagan were still alive, I'm sure he would find the right words.  :smirk:
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on February 15, 2024, 18:29:22
QuoteClergy in Russia who speak out against the invasion of Ukraine risk losing their freedom. The Russian Orthodox Church officially supports what the Kremlin describes as a "special military operation."

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on February 24, 2024, 18:44:05
QuoteOver twenty years ago, the former secretary general of Nato, George Robertson, visited Moscow and held talks with Russian President Vladimir Putin.


Putin was exasperated at the Celebrations for D-Day 2014. Merkel had to appease him. Everyone else looked away ... took no note from it.
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on March 11, 2024, 11:18:47
QuoteIn an interview that has so far only been partly in public, Pope Francis comments on the continuing war in Ukraine. Without calling the country, he calls Ukraine to "Courage to the White Flag" and negotiations. The full interview will be broadcast on March 20.

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Ulrich on March 11, 2024, 16:14:41
Quote from: MeltingMan on March 11, 2024, 11:18:47[ and negotiations.

Well, from all the reports I heard Putin has so far said "no" to any kind of negotiation, no idea why some people think they need to suggest that.  :1f636:
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on March 12, 2024, 12:41:45
As far as I know, Turkey has signaled that it will act as a mediator. A greater gift cannot be given to Mr. Erdogan, who will not run again. The "white flag" remark was unfortunate. I think the Pope wanted to make it clear that Ukraine can ask for negotiations without losing face. For my part, I have seen and heard enough. Sure, negotiations can only be a first step, but in the end it could actually be worth it for both sides, unless you want a global war. :frowning:
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Ulrich on March 12, 2024, 13:03:50
Quote from: MeltingMan on March 12, 2024, 12:41:45As far as I know, Turkey has signaled that it will act as a mediator. A greater gift cannot be given to Mr. Erdogan, who will not run again. 

Yes, he keeps on trying:

https://www.euronews.com/2024/03/09/zelenskyy-declines-turkeys-offer-to-host-peace-talks-with-russia

QuoteTurkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, whose NATO-member country has sought to balance its close relations with both Ukraine and Russia, offered during a visit on Friday from Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to host a peace summit between the two countries.

Erdogan, who has repeatedly discussed brokering a peace deal, said at a news conference in Istanbul following his meeting with Zelenskyy that he hoped Russia would be on board with Turkey's offer.

"Since the beginning, we have contributed as much as we could toward ending the war through negotiations," Erdogan said. "We are also ready to host a peace summit in which Russia will also be included."

Let's hope he will get through with it...
Because, according to this article, negotiating could be frustrating and fruitless:

QuoteWhy are there no negotiations with Putin? This question is not as simple as it may appear. Nevertheless, there are two main reasons.

The first reason, the "image of the war," is obvious, but Putin does not understand it, and no one can explain it to him.

The second reason, which is much more significant, is structural: Putin lacks the ability to take on binding commitments. In reality, it's precisely this structural reason that impedes negotiations.

The difficulty lies in the fact that negotiations with Putin are currently pointless because he cannot make any meaningful commitments. He can make promises in words, but in reality, these promises are worthless. Over his 20-year rule, he has promised practically everything — his signature is on the border treaty with Ukraine, for example. And he violated all of it. Over the past two years, he has broken almost every promise he made. Again, Putin himself may not even know about this. I suspect it would be a terrible risk for his subordinates to remind him of what he said a month, a year, or even a week ago. But everyone else knows that he breaks all of his promises. No matter how pragmatic and cynical a negotiator might be, what is the point of such negotiations?
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/08/04/why-there-will-be-no-negotiating-with-putin-a82021
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on March 14, 2024, 11:07:46
Quotewhat is the point of such negotiations?

Let's be honest: the war is devouring more and more resources, putting a strain on international relations, uprooting hundreds of thousands, promoting shady profiteers or those who want to profit from the suffering of others, while the upper class is little or not affected by the war. The most Ukraine can do is prolong the war. Who wants that anyway? The EU once received the Nobel Peace Prize. This is responsibility and obligation at the same time.  :1f633:
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Ulrich on March 14, 2024, 14:04:06
Quote from: MeltingMan on March 14, 2024, 11:07:46The most Ukraine can do is prolong the war. Who wants that anyway?

Well, there is one side which can stop their aggression... if that ever happens, negotiations would be the next step.

IF the Ukraine gave up their territories, do we really believe Putin would stop there? Or would he continue trying to "get back" to the old "Soviet Union"?  :?
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on March 14, 2024, 19:16:59
Putin, if you only watched parts of his speech to the nation, is still very much in the "Soviet Union", if you ask me. I saw many worried and sometimes fascinated faces among the listeners. The war target is the entire Ukraine. The election advertising for March 17th leaves no doubt about it. Although I believe that the Ukrainians are basically willing to negotiate, they definitely do not want to return under Russian or Soviet control, name it as you want. That's understandable and the real sticking point. So it will remain difficult.  :anguished:
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: dsanchez on March 18, 2024, 11:52:39
Glad to see people in Germany pushing towards negotiations. Escalating this war won't end well and a NATO vs Russia war will mean the end of the civilization as we know it
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Ulrich on March 18, 2024, 12:48:13
Well there are some "voices" demanding it, trouble is they have nothing to say (they aren't part of government here)!

(The sentence "leading left-wing party" is wrong somehow, the SPD and the Green Party who are part of the coalition running our country, are rather "left" than "right"! And imho, especially in Germany, we do know how important it can be not to trust a powermad dictator...)

As to why negotiations are difficult, I already tried to explain above (post #110).
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on March 19, 2024, 18:49:17
Quote from: UlrichAnd imho, especially in Germany, we do know how important it can be not to trust a powermad dictator...)

That's right. Added to this is the experience of the 'peaceful revolution' of 1989. We Germans have given up nationalism and militarism, but not voluntarily. It was the result or the lesson of two world wars. I don't think there will be any "territorial cessions" or any substantive negotiations until both parties are war-weary. Even without the war in the way it is being fought, the EU would have to face a "hostile takeover" by China and/or Russia. Furthermore, I am of the opinion that we should refrain from using terms like "right and left of center" as long as the conflict lasts and spreads.
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Ulrich on March 20, 2024, 15:57:16
Evidently, Mr Erdogan has been pushing for negotiations for almost 2 years now. So far without any success, sadly.

Hence I don't see why some "politicians" think they need to "demand" negotiations, it has been tried on diplomatic level. Just goes to show some people demand a lot, without doing much themselves.

Quote from: MeltingMan on March 19, 2024, 18:49:17... I am of the opinion that we should refrain from using terms like "right and left of center" as long as the conflict lasts and spreads.

Why? I certainly won't go voting for extreme right because of any conflict anywhere. Plus, my comment was not about "left vs. right", it was about the term "leading left-wing party", which is just wrong (on the verge of "fake news" almost)!
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on March 21, 2024, 10:43:14
Quote from: UlrichWhy? I certainly won't go voting for extreme right because of any conflict anywhere. Plus, my comment was not about "left vs. right", it was about the term "leading left-wing party", which is just wrong (on the verge of "fake news" almost)!

Three or even four things come into play here (apart from Russian propaganda and disinformation): the "fight against right-wing extremism" (a main concern of the SPD), the stages in Putin's CV (partly located in East-Germany), the tradition of the so-called Ostpolitik (initiated by W. Brandt in 1970) and then the not quite unimportant fact that the SPD is currently representing the German Chancellor, and quite a few voters are wondering what is specifically affected by the "turning point" (O. Scholz) and what is not. I don't want Ukraine to become or remain a vassal state, but I'm not sure whether we currently have a majority for that in Germany. The coming elections will show it.  :1f636:
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Ulrich on March 21, 2024, 13:46:04
Quote from: MeltingMan on March 21, 2024, 10:43:14The coming elections will show it.  :1f636:

Yes, they will also show if the SWB will indeed be a "leading" party or not and if the right-wing will be very strong.

Another thing: over this Ukraine war, too many other conflicts are kinda "forgotten" in our media landscape: Sudan, Yemen, Haiti and so on and so on.
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on March 24, 2024, 09:06:30
I do not believe in an entanglement of Ukraine when attacking in Krasnogorsk. But memories become awake ...

Quote from: WikipediaAt the hostage-taking in the Moscow Dubrowka Theater on October 23, 2002, 40 to 50 armed people, who even attributed themselves to the separatist movement of Chechnya, made 850 people into their violence and asked for the withdrawal of the Russian troops from Chechnya.

After the hostage-taking in Moscow had already lasted two and a half days, special units of the Russian domestic intelligence company FSB pumped a gas mix of Carfentanyl and Remifentanil [1] into the ventilation system of the theater and stormed the building minutes later. The anesthetized terrorists were killed by the special units by head shots. 130 hostages died, 5 by the hostage-takers, 125 due to inadequate medical treatment from the consequences of gas use. [2] [3]
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Ulrich on April 17, 2024, 11:06:29
Germany's chancellor, Scholz from the SPD (Social Democrats), has tried to persuade China's leader Xi to help end the conflict, but experts do believe Germany has no real "weight" compared to China...

https://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/asien/china-scholz-wirtschaft-ukraine-100.html

Quotetagesschau.de: Bei den geopolitischen Fragen ging es zwischen Scholz und Xi unter anderem um Chinas Position im Krieg gegen die Ukraine. Hier sagte der chinesische Präsident gegenüber Scholz, China sei keine Partei in diesem Kontext. Ist das nicht eine reichlich beschönigende Darstellung?

Shi-Kupfer: In der chinesischen Übersetzung hieß es, China sei keine direkt involvierte Partei. Aber in der Tat beschönigt das die Unterstützung Russlands durch China, sei es durch die Ausweitung des Handels mit Russland, sei es durch Lieferung von zum Beispiel Drohnen, Flugzeugmotoren oder anderen Maschinenteilen, die für Kriegsgerät wie Raketen verwenden werden, was Russland dabei hilft, in diesem Konflikt durchzuhalten und so dazustehen, wie es jetzt dasteht. Das vertuscht China mit dieser Formulierung und ist etwas, worüber die chinesische Regierung nicht offen spricht.

tagesschau.de: Welche Strategie verfolgt China in diesem Krieg?

Shi-Kupfer: Der Krieg verläuft aus Sicht der chinesischen Regierung in ihrem Interesse. Ein anhaltender, nicht eskalierender Konflikt bindet die US-amerikanische und die europäischen Regierungen und beschränkt ihre Möglichkeiten, sich mit der spannungsgeladenen Lage im Südchinesischen Meer zu beschäftigen - mit den Ansprüchen, die China zudem auf Taiwan und weitere Regionen erhebt.Wenn der Ukraine-Krieg weiter eskalieren und die Sanktionen gegen Russland noch härter würden, könnte China wegen seiner Unterstützung für Russland noch stärker ins Visier geraten. Ich möchte zwar der chinesischen Regierung nicht absprechen, dass sie auch an einem Friedensschluss interessiert ist. Aber unter geopolitischen Gesichtspunkten missfällt der anhaltende Konflikt China sicher nicht.
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on April 20, 2024, 12:50:02
I don't have to emphasize that the military situation for Ukraine does not look good. Recordings of an attack west of Donetsk suggest that not only air defense is inadequate, but also the artillery. Ammunition is now available again, but is used incorrectly. The hit position, on the other hand, is effective enough on immovable targets. And with the Leopard 1/2 you have to ask yourself whether they are consciously held back, regardless of the supply with spare parts. A flight ban zone is not even discussed! However, it would actually be necessary if Ukraine should not lose the war. The use of heavy mortars and 500 kg bombs on the Russian side justifies actually combat missions of B-52's.  :1f636:
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on April 22, 2024, 18:33:41
These "special trains" to Kiev make me curious. The German Economic Minister was there recently - his second trip after a year. On the interior shots of the first trip you can see that there is also a conference wagon where he meets with his delegation. The occasion may be complicated and/or sad, I am so pleased that German politicians are so welcome. Thanks! ❤️
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on May 06, 2024, 10:49:20
Quote from: WELT, 30.04.2024Weapons like Taurus can only be delivered if you keep control over everything that is done with it, said [Chancellor] Scholz in a 'citizens dialogue' in Lüneburg. This weapon is so effective and precise over long distances, "we can go to a living room directly," he pointed out. Therefore, in the event of a delivery, Germany must "keep control of target control. But we must not do that because if we did it, we would be involved in the war," said the Chancellor.

This is also possible with combat drones, only that they are limited at range and flight altitude. One or more Su-34 are also much faster. So I have changed my opinion about Taurus. The number of pieces will be manageable anyway, and what Ukraine does with it will ultimately not be our business.  :frowning:

Another note: rocket debris, probably from North Korean production, have already been found in the Kharkov area. Isn't it an irony that South Korea has over 200 Taurus? 
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: dsanchez on May 09, 2024, 16:09:49
Excellent like always, Professor Mearsheimer

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on May 13, 2024, 18:40:10
The dismissal of Mr. Schoigu with simultaneous attack operations in the Kharkiv area are more of a sign of weakness, not strength. They have to attack before the promised US aids arrive at the front. Nevertheless, a kind of defeatism is noticeable in western media. :?
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on May 26, 2024, 18:34:16
Quote from: BildSpectacular recordings from the southeast of Ukraine show the targeted destruction of the most modern Russian anti-aircraft system through a previously retired US rocket from the 1990s. Although the Russian S-400 launches six rockets onto the approaching ballistic US rocket, none hits the target. Seconds later, the Russian "high -tech" is destroyed.

The splintering effect is good, but 165 km range of the first ATACMS series are inadequate. It should be at least 200 km.
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on May 31, 2024, 11:55:58
Quote from: WELTSurprise! Chancellor Scholz allows German weapons to be used against targets in Russia.

According to the Federal Government, Ukraine may also defend itself against shelling from the Russian border area with weapons delivered from Germany. "In the past few weeks, Russia has prepared, coordinated and executed attacks, especially in the Kharkiv area, of positions from the immediately adjacent Russian border area," explains government spokesman Steffen Hebestreit by press release. "Together we are convinced that Ukraine has the right to defend itself against these attacks." The spokesman does not say which weapons from Germany could be used for this. The PzH 2000 and the rocket launcher Mars-II would come into question due to their range.

 :smth023
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Ulrich on June 01, 2024, 17:54:16
Our Minister of Defense, Pistorius, recently said something and I think he's right: we should not discuss such strategies in public over the media. Does Russia discuss where their weapons come from and how to use them? No.
These things should be discussed by politicians and military experts, outside the public view.
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on June 02, 2024, 09:49:50
I saw the interview. Kiev was forced to deduct units of air defense from the front to ensure the protection of the civilian population in the major cities. But that was exactly what was intended by the aggressor (Russia)!

The Russian Air Force has no "range problem". And every restriction in the use of western weapons also helps Russia and limits the possibilities of Ukraine hitting back, always on the condition that Ukraine has the last word in this matter.

We had long, excruciating, public discussions ... ultimately without meaning. In this respect, the minister may be right, but, and that also became clear in the interview, he cannot prevent such questions in Warsaw, Brussels and elsewhere. Experts and politicians can make wrong decisions. Do we want to put the problem on future generations?! Russia is already preparing the next war ... in twenty, thirty years.
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Ulrich on June 02, 2024, 11:48:18
Quote from: MeltingMan on June 02, 2024, 09:49:50Do we want to put the problem on future generations?! Russia is already preparing the next war ... in twenty, thirty years.

Or maybe much earlier, e.g. if we "hand them over" the Ukraine, as some people suggest...  :1f636:
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: dsanchez on July 22, 2024, 13:39:18
Finally people talking about ending the war

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Ulrich on July 29, 2024, 13:19:32
Quote from: dsanchez on July 22, 2024, 13:39:18Finally people talking about ending the war

Trouble is: those "people" are ex-presidents who talk about "unifying the country" one minute, then in his next speech he says the other party are "anti-democrats". Also, he threatens there will be WW III if he won't win - and that if he wins, people won't have to go voting again...  :1f635:  :anguished:  :unamused:  :persevere:  :1f629:
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: dsanchez on July 30, 2024, 15:48:01
Quote from: Ulrich on July 29, 2024, 13:19:32he threatens there will be WW III if he won't win

which, by looking at the current events, this is probably true
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Ulrich on July 30, 2024, 16:32:11
Quote from: dsanchez on July 30, 2024, 15:48:01which, by looking at the current events, this is probably true

Maybe, but not because of him... (president or not)!
Russia is building tanks, for being able to attack Nato countries within 5 to 8 years (or so), they won't care what Trump says.
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: dsanchez on September 15, 2024, 13:38:59
Hope this won't escalate...

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: dsanchez on October 01, 2024, 10:47:48
They don't pretend anymore

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: dsanchez on December 06, 2024, 09:51:58
Worth watching, interview with Lavrov:

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: dsanchez on December 20, 2024, 11:09:07
Former Swiss envoy to Turkey, who participated in the early Ukraine talks, reveals that a ceasefire was essentially in hand, but the US/UK blocked it. It was a "deeply immoral" decision, he laments because thousands more died as a result for no reason.
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Ulrich on December 20, 2024, 13:06:10
Quote from: dsanchez on December 20, 2024, 11:09:07... thousands more died as a result for no reason.

That depends. Those who died before the proposed ceasefire died for a reason then?  :1f636:
I don't think so. The poor guys who are forced to attack another country, are the ones who die without reason...
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: dsanchez on December 23, 2024, 13:23:48
Quote from: Ulrich on December 20, 2024, 13:06:10
Quote from: dsanchez on December 20, 2024, 11:09:07... thousands more died as a result for no reason.
That depends. Those who died before the proposed ceasefire died for a reason then?  :1f636:
I don't think so. The poor guys who are forced to attack another country, are the ones who die without reason...
Sure, but the fact the war continued for so long when it could have been stopped much earlier had as result many more dying, deaths that could have been avoided. Unfortunately, it seems the US (which as we all know by now, has the final word on how long Ukraine should continue fighting) does not have any problem lowering conscription age (to 18 years old) to send more Ukrainians to the frontline, to an almost certain death:

QuoteA senior Biden administration official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the private consultations, said Wednesday that the outgoing Democratic administration wants Ukraine to lower the mobilization age to 18 from the current age of 25 to expand the pool of fighting-age men available to help a badly outnumbered Ukraine in its nearly three-year-old war with Russia
https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-war-biden-draft-08e3bad195585b7c3d9662819cc5618f

Blinken himself said this :pouting-face

QuoteBut for example, getting younger people into the fight, we think, many of us think, is necessary. Right now, 18- to 25-year olds are not in the fight
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/blinken-says-ukraine-needs-get-younger-people-fighting-russia-2024-12-04/
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Ulrich on December 24, 2024, 10:35:47
As I already pointed out in post #110, negotiations with Putin will probably be fruitless, as he decided to attack Ukraine, despite signing a treaty that he will respect their borders! How long do you think he would keep to a "ceasefire" agreement? Maybe over Christmas (if that means anything to him)...?
IF the Ukraine gives up their territories, what next? Do you think he'll just keep quiet or will he attack another country?
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Ulrich on January 04, 2025, 14:01:09
We needn't worry, do we? The guy who promised to end this war within a few days, is president soon...
Then he can prove whether he's a "man of his word" or maybe just a "narcisstic a***", who am I to know? :1f636:
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: dsanchez on January 06, 2025, 18:45:27
Quote from: Ulrich on January 04, 2025, 14:01:09We needn't worry, do we? The guy who promised to end this war within a few days, is president soon...
Then he can prove whether he's a "man of his word" or maybe just a "narcisstic a***", who am I to know? :1f636:

the neutrality of Ukraine (i.e. Ukraine not joining NATO) will be the key topic. Trump's advisors propose a 20-years freeze on Ukraine's NATO bid, but Russia won't accept that. Mearsheimer has explained (see below) why this is a big issue several times, including in his famous Chicago conference (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4) way before the invasion started.


let's hope a deal is reached very soon.
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Ulrich on January 06, 2025, 20:01:48
Quote from: dsanchez on January 06, 2025, 18:45:27the neutrality of Ukraine (i.e. Ukraine not joining NATO) will be the key topic. Trump's advisors propose a 20-years freeze on Ukraine's NATO bid, but Russia won't accept that.

Any reasons why?
Oh sorry, I forgot that Putin had signed a treaty to respect their borders and then attacked them anyway... :persevere:

P.S.: So Tronald Dump won't bring peace? That is disappointing, but no surprise...
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: dsanchez on January 07, 2025, 16:09:23
Quote from: Ulrich on January 06, 2025, 20:01:48Any reasons why?
Mearsheimer explains it pretty well:


Quote from: Ulrich on January 06, 2025, 20:01:48P.S.: So Tronald Dump won't bring peace? That is disappointing, but no surprise...
This is yet to be seen. One thing is certain: with the current US administration peace negotiations are off the table.

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Ulrich on January 08, 2025, 08:29:48
Quote from: dsanchez on January 07, 2025, 16:09:23Mearsheimer explains it pretty well:

Yeah thanks, but I already understood years ago why Putin thinks Nato is a threat...

What I don't understand is why some people still think he can be trusted when signing a truce or peace treaty.  :1f636:

This guy won't bring peace, he opens up new conflicts even before he's inaugurated...
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gzn48jwz2o
QuotePresident-elect Donald Trump is showing no sign of letting up in his desire for the US to acquire Greenland and the Panama Canal, calling both critical to American national security.

Asked if he would rule out using military or economic force in order to take over the autonomous Danish territory or the Canal, he responded: "No, I can't assure you on either of those two.
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on January 08, 2025, 10:10:45
After seeing new pictures from the front yesterday, I was forced to ask myself (rhetorically) whether the war as a whole is not a crime and not just the war crimes that are being committed here and there by both sides. One would like to shout to those involved: "Stop this nonsense! We are in the 21st century." :frowning:  I have remained silent for a long time because I do not want to adopt the pro-Russian view. It has to do with my life. So if I can give any advice at all: stop this violence. Stop it at last if you want to be real people.  :smth011
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Ulrich on January 09, 2025, 12:54:16
Quote from: Ulrich on January 04, 2025, 14:01:09The guy who promised to end this war within a few days, is president soon...

He already changed from "within days" to "about 6 months".
A "bigmouth" is what he has (and is)...  :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Ulrich on January 22, 2025, 18:44:14
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn0y51z7wedt

QuoteOn Wednesday morning, Trump on Truth Social threatened "high levels of taxes, tariffs and sanctions" if Russian President Vladimir Putin did not end the war. It's not clear what more Trump would impose on the heavily-sanctioned Russia, but we're waiting to see how Putin responds to the pressure.

Wow, threats of sanctions (yeah these worked so well in all this time since Feb '22)...  :1f62b:
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on February 14, 2025, 17:59:59
What the Trump administration is now proposing is not only an affront for the Ukrainians but also for the Europeans. However, I would welcome it if Mr. Zelenskyy actually faces re-election this year. The country is de facto a member of NATO and the EU! However, if Ukraine is supposed to cede areas to Russia permanently, it must receive something in return. My modest opinion ...
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Ulrich on February 15, 2025, 09:04:15
Quote from: MeltingMan on February 14, 2025, 17:59:59What the Trump administration is now proposing ...

Well I told before those guys won't bring peace to anyone (except maybe their billionaire friends)...

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ceve3wl21x1o

QuoteIt had been expected that Vance would use his speech at the Munich Security Conference to address possible talks to end the war in Ukraine.

Instead, he spent the majority accusing European governments ...
:disappointed:
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on February 19, 2025, 08:03:27
Quote from: Ulrichthreats of sanctions, (yeah these worked so well...)

Some US sanctions, on the other hand, really hurt Russia because they have a global impact. Here is an excerpt:

Quote from: WikipediaOn January 10, 2025, a few days before the end of its term, the US administration under Joe Biden imposed further sanctions against Gazprom Neft and Surgutneftegas, against 183 ships, often classified as part of the shadow fleet, and against dozens of oil traders, oilfield service providers, insurance companies and officials in the energy sector.[167]
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Ulrich on February 19, 2025, 10:52:23
To me it looks like Trump will "bow down" to Putin and offer him "gifts" (but I am no "expert").  :1f636:

QuoteThe Kremlin wants the Russian public and the international community to see that Western efforts to isolate Russia over the war in Ukraine have failed.

Russian media are welcoming the prospect of warmer ties with Washington and pouring scorn on European leaders and Kyiv.

"Trump knows he will have to make concessions [to Russia] because he is negotiating with the side that's winning in Ukraine," writes pro-Kremlin tabloid Moskovsky Komsomolets. "He will make concessions. Not at America's expense, but at the expense of Europe and Ukraine.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3w16z7dvz7o
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on February 19, 2025, 18:31:29
He doesn't have to "bow". :lol:  It would be sufficient if the NATO partners would agree to offer Russia (finally) a complete membership. Although this contradicts the regulations, according to which a country has to officially apply, it is appropriate in my opinion. After all, nothing or nobody speaks against the accession of Ukraine to the EU if I have understood Mr. Lavrov correctly. However, the Russian Federation has to note that this offer for accession only comes once. :neutral-face
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Ulrich on February 20, 2025, 12:10:00
As I said, I am no expert, but according to various reports, he already did:

https://eaworldview.com/2024/11/ukraine-trump-bowed-down-to-putin/

QuoteUS officials have detailed how Donald Trump bowed down to Vladimir Putin over Ukraine in 2016-2017, enabling the Russian leader to pursue his "hybrid war" to break up the neighboring country.
The discussions followed Russia's support of Trump's campaign for the Presidency but predated his 2019 blackmail of Ukraine, freezing military aid because the Zelenskiy Government would not publicly spread disinformation about Democratic Presidential candidate Joe Biden.

The officials describe a key moment at the G20 summit in Hamburg, Germany in July 2017, with the first face-to-face meeting between the two men.

Putin had summoned Trump from the summit dinner for a private conversation. Only interpreters were present. After the encounter, Trump took his translator's notes and told him not to discuss the meeting with anyone.

But US officials learned that Putin had disparaged Ukraine as a corrupt, fabricated country. He said Russia, which had seized Crimea in 2014 and supported the efforts of separatists to split the country, had every right to exert its influence.
:unamused:
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: dsanchez on February 20, 2025, 13:09:28
Quote from: Ulrich on January 06, 2025, 20:01:48P.S.: So Tronald Dump won't bring peace? That is disappointing, but no surprise...

Seems he will. Finally Russia and US are talking to each other (never happened during Biden's), which is great news:

Russia and US agree to work toward ending Ukraine war in a remarkable diplomatic shift

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-riyadh-talks-trump-putin-rubio-0c3beebfef5839e9d509ff58239a6bc5

This has been always a US-proxy war and now is more clear than ever. Unfortunately, Ukraine will end up wrecked as Mearsheimer said 10 years ago. So many lives lost for a war that could have been stopped (actually, avoided) a long while ago...
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Ulrich on February 20, 2025, 13:14:56
Quote from: dsanchez on February 20, 2025, 13:09:28Seems he will.

See posts above... He "supported" Putin to start the war already back in 2017!
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on February 21, 2025, 11:39:54
Not to be misunderstood, I still see the occupation of Crimea and parts of eastern Ukraine as an injustice. I am against trying to fix this in a treaty. On the other hand, Mr. Zelenskyy may be standing in the way of a ceasefire. Russia has numerical superiority on the battlefield, but they cannot carry on the war indefinitely. I only need to look at Mr. Lavrov's face. And Mr. Trump should please moderate his tone. That is not how you treat allies.  :?
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Ulrich on February 22, 2025, 10:35:21
This (German) article is revealing... it's all about "rare earth metals" and $$$$ (of course):

https://www.t-online.de/nachrichten/ukraine/id_100608420/trump-droht-ukraine-offenbar-mit-abschaltung-von-musks-starlink.html
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: dsanchez on February 24, 2025, 12:52:42
Quote from: Ulrich on February 22, 2025, 10:35:21This (German) article is revealing... it's all about "rare earth metals" and $$$$ (of course):

it has always been :(
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: dsanchez on February 24, 2025, 13:26:24
Boris Johnson on Ukraine: "Mate, let's face it: we're waging a proxy war" :/

https://x.com/kennardmatt/status/1893996126363062375
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on February 28, 2025, 09:59:59
To illustrate earlier posts, here is a brief overview of Ukraine's rare mineral resources.

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Ulrich on March 01, 2025, 09:28:19
Imho, what's happening is best described by the old words "divide and rule".

Meaning:
QuoteA political strategy to gain or retain power by cultivating disunity among potential opponents, often by co-opting some individuals and groups while excluding others.


In general, things are worsened by the fact that one "politician" (naming no names) does not know what "diplomacy" is.  :unamused:
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on March 01, 2025, 15:25:19
I absolutely agree with Tyson Barker that the addition of JDV was "highly irregular". Nevertheless, the Vice President and DT should have noticed that Mr. Zelenskyy is not a 'pushover'. :unamused: 

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Ulrich on March 02, 2025, 09:42:40
Quote from: MeltingMan on March 01, 2025, 15:25:19the Vice President and DT should have noticed ...

According to some "experts" the whole thing was "staged" and pre-planned (as Mr T has experience with provocative tv shows!), because someone who promised peace within 24 hours is a little under pressure now and many people in the US have the impression that he is Putin's dog... :disappointed:
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on March 02, 2025, 13:00:06
Quote from: Ulrichthe whole thing was "staged"

I would rather say that the last ten minutes in the Oval Office have gone wrong and one person is to blame: the Vice President, DT's watchdog if you will. If I were US President, I would fire him. Period.  :smth011
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Ulrich on March 03, 2025, 09:17:33
QuoteSicherheitsexpertin Major analysierte: "Die USA möchten einen Deal, sie möchten ein schnelles Ende und militärisch aus Europa raus. Selenskyj möchte eine Überlebensgarantie. Trump ist de facto an Putin gescheitert – er hat es nicht geschafft, diesen Krieg innerhalb von 48 Stunden zu beenden. Das Bauernopfer, was dafür herhalten muss, ist Selenskyj."
https://www.gmx.net/magazine/politik/politische-talkshows/sicherheitsexpertin-caren-miosga-trump-de-facto-putin-gescheitert-40725460
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: dsanchez on March 04, 2025, 14:09:13
As of today, it looks like Europe wants to prolong the war, which the Ukranian themselves don't want anymore:

Half of Ukrainians Want Quick, Negotiated End to War
https://news.gallup.com/poll/653495/half-ukrainians-quick-negotiated-end-war.aspx

Hope negotiations will start ASAP.
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on March 05, 2025, 10:42:11
It would not have been necessary for President Zelenskyy to 'regret' the incident in the White House, by the way at a news agency that was not invited. I will refrain from sharing this minute and a half here. If the Trump administration now also relaxes the sanctions against Russia, the war could last even longer! I may be wrong, but I see Russia where the German Empire was in March 1918. Did everyone pay attention in history class (JDV certainly not)? ;)

I said ten years ago that NATO and the EU must be "put to the test". Now we have this 'test'. Russia may be able to avert defeat on the battlefield, I'm not so sure about that (see above), but they will not be in a better position after the war. Rhetorical question: how much criminal energy and how much megalomania are currently in US foreign policy? In the meantime, I am considering whether I should emigrate to Vermont or Canada. Thank you for your support!  :heart-eyes
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Ulrich on March 05, 2025, 10:54:11
Quote from: dsanchez on March 04, 2025, 14:09:13Hope negotiations will start ASAP.

Well, it is looking better today, but with some wacky people it might change tomorrow...

QuoteDonald Trump says Ukraine is ready to begin peace negotiations "as soon as possible", with strong signals Russia is also ready for a deal

During an address to Congress, the US president read aloud a letter he said he'd received from Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky, which was similar to a message posted on X earlier in the day


"I appreciate that he sent this letter," Trump said
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cly28qvp83pt
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Matti on March 06, 2025, 20:55:45
Quote from: dsanchez on March 04, 2025, 14:09:13it looks like Europe wants to prolong the war
Let's get this straight: this is simply not true. Europe wants to help Ukraine defend themselves (and, eventually, Europe itself) against Putin.
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Ulrich on March 07, 2025, 09:41:15
Quote from: Matti on March 06, 2025, 20:55:45... wants to help Ukraine defend themselves (and, eventually, Europe itself) against Putin.

While that is true, there is an interest to keep this war going, because they know Putin & co. might attack other countries if they "win" big territories in Ukraine...
(IF they'd attack Lituavia or Poland or..., we might get bigger problems.)  :1f636:
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on March 07, 2025, 11:50:10
Quote from: dsanchezHope negotiations will start ASAP.

Since the US has switched sides in the middle of the war, it makes sense to hold the People's Republic of China more responsible. They do not see Europe only as a market and can exert their influence in such a way that Russia and the US do not "dictate" the conditions to Ukraine. In my opinion, this "peace" will not last long.
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Ulrich on March 07, 2025, 19:24:21
QuoteWe've also heard from Yehor Cherniev - Ukrainian MP and chairman of the Nato Ukrainian Delegation - who says Ukraine is "ready for peace, but not just for any price".

Speaking to the BBC, he says: "We should never forget who is the aggressor and who is the victim, it's unfair to expect the victim to surrender and give up."

On Trump's assertion that Russia holds the cards in the war, Cherniev responds: "We have been fighting for three years against a huge country - and, so, we have some cards. We can protect ourselves."

He adds that the US is Ukraine's strategic partner and his country is working to build the relationship, to reach a peace deal.
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cg70jylp32gt
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on March 12, 2025, 08:43:18
Quote from: Viktor O.Angela M. would have prevented the war.

She did, to a certain extent. However, she allowed herself to be "wrapped up" by WP to such an extent that it inevitably aroused suspicion among Western allies. The war shows us how great the imbalance of power is. A similar scenario threatened to unfold on German soil in the 1960s. Returning to the present, I hope Messrs. Rubio, Waltz, and Witkoff know where the exit is – just in case.  :neutral-face
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: dsanchez on March 12, 2025, 17:04:09
Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov's interview to the US bloggers Mario Nawfal, Larry C.Johnson and Andrew Napolitano, Moscow, March 12, 2025

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Ulrich on March 12, 2025, 19:09:36
On the "collision" of two ships near Hull...
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c30mj5gq9d5o
QuoteFollowing the collision, the Russian national captain of the Solong was arrested on suspicion of gross negligence manslaughter following reports of a missing crew member.

Un soit qui mal y pense...  :1f636:
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on March 13, 2025, 09:06:16
Quote from: UlrichUn soit qui mal y pense...

The freighter is said to have 15 containers with sodium cyanide on board, says ntv. Other agencies contradict that. The tanker was also anchored. It looks like sabotage.
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: dsanchez on March 13, 2025, 11:52:20
Analysis on the SMO vs an all out war. Hope we don't get to the second one.

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: dsanchez on March 13, 2025, 12:02:05
Quote from: Matti on March 06, 2025, 20:55:45
Quoteit looks like Europe wants to prolong the war
Let's get this straight: this is simply not true. Europe wants to help Ukraine defend themselves (and, eventually, Europe itself) against Putin.

There's no evidence Russia plans to attack or conquer Europe. I personally don't believe this for a second. But let's read what the experts have to say about this:

QuoteWestern leaders, including U.S. President Joe Biden, have frequently framed the invasion of Ukraine as the first step in a Russian plan of broader European conquest. However, a close examination of Russian intent and military capabilities shows this view is dangerously mistaken. Russia likely has neither the capability nor the intent to launch a war of aggression against NATO members — but the ongoing brinkmanship between Russia and the West still poses serious risks of military escalation that can only be defused by supplementing military deterrence with a diplomatic effort to address tensions.

https://quincyinst.org/research/right-sizing-the-russian-threat-to-europe/#executive-summary

In the other hand, Europe helping Ukraine to defend themselves at the cost of thousands of Ukrainian lives on a war they are losing (hear it from the US secretary of defense himself (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYEunzCH2Yg)) IMO is not better than prioritizing talks instead. We need to push for more talks, no more weapons. The war must end.
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Ulrich on March 13, 2025, 12:36:55
Quote from: dsanchez on March 13, 2025, 12:02:05There's no evidence Russia plans to attack or conquer Europe.

It is known that Putin wishes himself back to how the Soviet Union used to be. (Said Angela M. for example, he told her himself.)

They're building lots of tanks apparently, not sure what for, but...  :1f636:
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Ulrich on March 14, 2025, 08:57:22
It is crystal clear which side wants to prolong the war.

QuoteRussia is ready for a halt in fighting, says Vladimir Putin, but "there are nuances". Those nuances that he laid out ahead of talks with US envoys at the Kremlin are so key to his thinking they could scupper any hope of a 30-day ceasefire.

They are demands that he has had throughout Russia's full-scale invasion, and before. And for Ukraine and its Western partners, many of them are going to prove unacceptable or impossible to fulfil.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg70y3ydmdno
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on March 14, 2025, 12:00:51
Moscow can, according to Phoenix on March 12th, "persevere" the war economically still only for a year. I mean people leave the country in droves, in the factories there are already missing workers etc. So I would not want to sign anything yet ... :cool
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Ulrich on March 19, 2025, 10:10:12
An analysis

QuoteIn the run up to today's call, Donald Trump made a big deal of his conversation with Russia's Vladimir Putin.

But the results look like there's little to shout about.

The Russian president has given the US leader just enough to claim that he made progress towards peace in Ukraine, without making it look like he was played by the Kremlin.

Trump can point to Putin's pledge to halt attacks on Ukraine's energy infrastructure for 30 days. If that actually happens, it will bring some relief to civilians.


But it's nowhere near the full and unconditional ceasefire that the US wanted from Russia.

The "very horrible war" Trump has insisted he can stop is still raging.

And Putin, a man indicted as a suspected war criminal by the ICC, has been given a leg-up back to the top tier of global politics.

Russian state media report that the two presidents' phone call lasted more than two hours. The Kremlin readout – its account of the call – is also long at 500 words.

It presents the conversation as chatty: they apparently discussed ice hockey, the kind of detail an audience back in Russia will lap up.

...

Both countries' accounts suggest nothing has changed.

Russia repeats that it wants peace. But instead of grounding its drones and silencing its guns, it's quibbling over how a still non-existent ceasefire might be monitored.

Meanwhile, it's adding even more conditions aimed at crippling Kyiv's ability to resist.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwyg2kzkggvo
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on March 23, 2025, 09:06:08
About criticism on Zelenskyy's clothing: I understand that he does not wear suits as long as his country is in the war. However, there were one or two occasions in public where I thought: Hmm, he could have done that better. When he recently rushed towards the British Prime Minister in front of 10 Downing Street, I involuntarily thought of the "Blackshirts". Was that coincidence or intent? In principle, he can wear everything, only black is not advantageous for him.  :?

PS: He's done it again, in public, this time even wearing a black Henley shirt, which falls under the category of night-and underwear. JDV seems to want to match his color scheme (during his visit to Greenland). People, can't you see you're dealing with f*scists?!
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Ulrich on March 26, 2025, 09:04:18
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5y2nvezdnwo

QuoteRussia and Ukraine have agreed to a naval ceasefire in the Black Sea in separate deals with the US, after three days of peace talks in Saudi Arabia.

Washington said all parties would continue working toward a "durable and lasting peace" in statements announcing the agreements, which would reopen an important trade route.

They have also committed to "develop measures" to implement a previously agreed ban on attacking each other's energy infrastructure, the White House said.

But Russia said the naval ceasefire would only come into force after a number of sanctions against its food and fertiliser trade were lifted.

US officials have been separately meeting negotiators from Moscow and Kyiv in Riyadh with the aim of brokering a truce between the two sides. The Russian and Ukrainian delegations have not met directly.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said the deal to halt strikes in the Black Sea was a step in the right direction.

"It is too early to say that it will work, but these were the right meetings, the right decisions, the right steps," he told a press conference in Kyiv.

"No-one can accuse Ukraine of not moving towards sustainable peace after this," he added, after US President Donald Trump had previously accused him of blocking a peace deal.
...

After this week's talks, both countries have also agreed to "develop measures" to implement a ban on attacking energy infrastructure on each other's territory.
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on April 29, 2025, 10:59:32
Quote from: WELTCrimea is lost!

Crimea is not lost, but rather part of the bargaining chip. It belongs to Ukraine as Alsace-Lorraine belongs to France. Period.  :mad:

Quote from: Sönke N.The last summer of peace.

Whaat? The Baltic states are armed to the teeth.
New images from the Bakhmut area prove that the Russians have no intention of "setting up home" there. A withdrawal is therefore very conceivable.  :?

PS: I'm shocked by a recent report from Pokrovsk (WELT). It's as if civilization has ended there. Dead people are hastily buried in gardens. Drones are everywhere—strikes here and there. A man is burning the sheathing of cables to then sell the copper. Ruins wherever you look—not a place you'd want to live. Spooky. Terrible.
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Ulrich on April 29, 2025, 16:50:41
QuoteShort ceasefires are becoming quite the Kremlin thing.

First, Vladimir Putin declared a 30-hour cessation of hostilities over Easter, portraying it as a "humanitarian" gesture.

Now the Kremlin leader has announced a three-day unilateral truce for early May. It will run from 8 May to 10 May to coincide with events marking the 80th anniversary of the end of World War Two.

In response to the proposal, Ukraine questioned why Russia could not commit to a ceasefire immediately and called for one to be implemented for at least 30 days.
"If Russia truly wants peace, it must cease fire immediately," Foreign Minister Andrii Sybiha said, adding: "Why wait until May 8th?"

So, from the Russian president who launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine more than three years ago, is this a sincere effort to end the fighting?
Or simply a public relations exercise by the Kremlin to impress Donald Trump?
Kremlin critics will suspect PR.

In a post on his Truth Social platform at the weekend, Trump wrote that "there was no reason" for Putin "to be shooting missiles into civilian areas, cities and towns [in Ukraine], over the last few days".

"It makes me think," he added, "that maybe he doesn't want to stop the war, he's just tapping me along, and has to be dealt with differently, through 'Banking' or 'Secondary Sanctions?' Too many people are dying!!!"
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvgpj3gddgno
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on May 06, 2025, 10:21:28
While everyone is talking about the upcoming annual Victory Day parade, images like these are highly welcome. Note the portrait of Alexander III.  :smth023

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on May 12, 2025, 10:04:33
"There is no military solution" were once the words of Angela M. "No export permit for German weapons in crisis regions" determined German foreign policy for a long time. If the new German Chancellor has his way, certain weapons desired by Ukraine will not be open to public discussion. Russian weapons systems, on the other hand, will be very well discussed publicly, and there is virtually no defense against some of them. Does the Coalition of the Willing know this? If Ukraine is to be 'taken off the defensive,' it must be given the appropriate resources. But that alone is illusory, because they can only conduct offensive operations for a limited space and time, and Russia needs months to correct a slump. And one more word about Mr. Zelenskyy: if he refuses to run for re-election, he's not better than his opponents. In other words, he is in acute danger of becoming a dictator.  :evil:
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Ulrich on May 15, 2025, 10:20:26
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c74nxrr7mwkt
QuoteIt's the question we've been asking all week ever since Vladimir Putin called for direct talks with Ukraine in Istanbul - would the Kremlin leader travel to Turkey to take part, or would he stay home?

Late last night we finally got the answer: "No" - or might that be "not yet"?

The Russian delegation for today's talks features no President Putin and no Russian minister. It will be headed by presidential adviser Vladimir Medinsky: a former culture minister and now chairman of the Russian Union of Writers.

Medinsky led the Russian delegation last time Moscow and Kyiv held face-to-face talks in 2022.

Joining him is a deputy defence minister, a deputy foreign minister and a military intelligence chief.

Based on the make-up of Moscow's negotiating team, Kremlin critics have accused Russia of not being serious about peace.

Yet if they go ahead later today, these will be the first face-to-face peace talks between Russia and Ukraine for more than three years. That, in itself, feels like an important moment.
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on May 16, 2025, 18:01:35
Things aren't going so badly for the Russian side at the moment, Armin C. reported to Phoenix yesterday from Istanbul. They are calmly anticipating a new EU sanctions package. It would be the seventeenth or eighteenth(!) that they have endured or circumvented. And as long as countries like Brazil, India, China, and Indonesia continue to buy oil and natural gas products, the Kremlin is under relatively little pressure to agree to any kind of peace now. The timing of serious talks is determined solely by the Kremlin, Armin C. said.  :neutral-face 
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Ulrich on May 19, 2025, 10:06:46
QuoteThe talks lasted less than two hours and sharp divisions soon emerged. The Kremlin made "new and unacceptable demands", according to a Ukrainian official. That included insisting Kyiv withdraw its troops from large parts of its own territory, he said, in exchange for a ceasefire.

While there was no breakthrough on the crucial issue of a truce – as expected - there is news of one tangible result.

Each side will return 1,000 prisoners of war to the other.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9wg599e79xo
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: dsanchez on May 20, 2025, 14:03:21
QuoteUnited States President Donald Trump has said, after a more-than-two-hour call with Russian President Vladimir Putin, that Moscow and Kyiv "will immediately start negotiations" towards a ceasefire and an end to their war, now in its fourth bloody year.

Putin said that efforts to end the conflict seemed "on the right track" and that Moscow was ready to work with Ukraine on a memorandum about a future peace accord.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/5/19/after-putin-call-trump-says-russia-ukraine-will-start-ceasefire-talks
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: Ulrich on May 27, 2025, 08:50:21
Prolonging the war...

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g2wz74jdzo

QuoteThe Kremlin claimed Donald Trump was showing signs of "emotional overload" after he called Vladimir Putin "absolutely crazy" following Moscow's largest aerial assault on Ukraine.

The US president said on Truth Social on Sunday that "something has happened" to Putin, after Russia killed 13 in Ukraine with 367 drones and missiles. "He has gone absolutely crazy," Trump said. "Needlessly killing a lot of people."
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on May 28, 2025, 16:12:53
QuoteAs dozens of attack drones swarmed the Russian capital, brave Ukrainian leader Volodymyr Zelensky revealed he wants direct crunch talks with Donald Trump and "crazy" Vladimir Putin.

Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on June 01, 2025, 18:44:07
QuoteUkraine's security service said 'Operation Spider's Web' took one and a half years to organise and was personally overseen by President Volodymyr Zelensky.


New maps illustrate the enormous distances.


PS: The operation can compared to Pearl Harbor only to a limited extent. The old battleships in the harbor offered an all too tempting target for the Japanese naval aviation, while the modern aircraft carriers were anchored far out. Their baptism of fire was yet to come. The message of the Ukrainian military is: "We can reach any point in Russia, if necessary even without (expensive) and possibly outdated technology from the West."  :cool
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on June 09, 2025, 16:38:40
Title: Re: Russia attacks Ukraine
Post by: MeltingMan on June 11, 2025, 08:54:47
Quote from: M. RutteBut you better learn to speak Russian.

A slap in the face for everyone who had the unpopular Russian as a compulsory subject at school, while English was optional.  :unamused:

Quote from: sanderdeboer6034Mark Rutte is the last person on this planet to complain about defense spending. During his disastrous time as PM in which he destroyed the housing market, did nothing about PFAS and the impact on the environment by our bizarrely large agricultural industry, he also did huge cutbacks on defense spending.

Even though MH17 should have been the ultimate warning. Plus I still don't understand why he hasn't done anything about his horrible level of English.

 :smth023