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Started by dsanchez, July 28, 2025, 12:19:16

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dsanchez

Have been seen this trend for years, but it seems to be more evident lately. Now this:
Arnaud Betrand:

QuoteThe "deal" is:
- The EU now gets charged 15% tariffs on its exports to the US when they commit to charging zero tariffs on US imports in the EU
- The EU agrees to invest $600 billion in the US, for no other obvious reason than pleasing "daddy"
- The EU will "purchase hundreds of billions of dollars of American military equipment"
- The EU commits to buying 750 billion dollars worth of very expensive US LNG, specifically $250 billion for each of the next 3 years

In exchange for all these concessions and extraction of their wealth they get... nothing. I'm not even exaggerating, that IS the deal: the EU gets nothing.

https://x.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1949578088712712651
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Sacha8

That's absolutely disgusting, the state we're in. Throughout these months, because of the international political situation, I've often thought about the song Alone as (unintentionally?) referring to civilization degrading into barbarism. "We toast with bitter drags to our emptiness" indeed...
"I'm alone
like a rainbow
you'll never put out."
Marc Almond and Jeremy Reed, Maladjusted

dsanchez

From Twitter:

QuoteTrump is in Britain, but nevertheless he is receiving Starmer as guests ... so Starmer is not the host.
LMAO ... isn't it supposed to be the other way around?
QuoteAnd President Trump is making him come to Scotland rather than Trump going to London. Starmer really is being humiliated here, with him coming up the steps to be greeted by a waiting US president. Wow.
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dsanchez

Oh my...
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Ulrich

QuoteLeaders from Europe's two largest economies have led a chorus of gloomy reactions to the trade deal struck between EU chief Ursula von der Leyen and US President Donald Trump.

German Chancellor Friedrich Merz said the agreement would "substantially damage" his nation's finances, while French Prime Minister Francois Bayrou said it was tantamount to "submission".
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3ez97zv5y5o
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MeltingMan

Tariffs of 15% are difficult to understand in the 21st century.

(Ulrike Malmendier via AFP Germany)

PS: You don't have to be an economic expert to see that this agreement is one-sided. The difference is: the EU has a war on its doorstep, and the Americans don't. We didn't want this war, but all the costs will be passed on to future EU citizens. Trump should publicly acknowledge that the EU is averting his country's potential national bankruptcy. Winners look different. 
It's easier for me to get closer to Heaven
Than ever feel whole again

dsanchez

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Ulrich

Quote from: dsanchez on August 19, 2025, 12:08:25"A group of children sitting obediently before their master"

Not true. As I pointed out elsewhere already, chancellor Merz had the balls to say to Trump that a ceasefire is needed (while most others said "thank you").  :smth023

Trump replied that he brought peace to various conflicts without using the word "ceasefire" at all. Which was proven untrue, apparently he used the word almost all the time in recent months...  :1f636:
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dsanchez

Quote from: Ulrich on August 19, 2025, 13:12:46Not true.

Are you joking? A picture says a thousand hours. A picture of Trump with European leaders arounds his desk is short of embarrassing, if not humiliating. Foubert says it better:

European leaders rushed to Washington in numbers, desperate to be seen, desperate to be heard. They came not as partners but as petitioners, waiting for the word of one man who now holds all the cards.

Trump decided what was discussed, what was promised, what was left unsaid. Europe brought no strategy, no leverage, no vision — only a need for American approval. The presidents and prime ministers of the continent behaved less like sovereigns and more like consultants, called in to nod along to decisions already made elsewhere.

This is what Europe has become: a collection of figures with titles but no power, nations with histories but no agency. The real choices are made in Washington, while Brussels organizes paperwork to disguise its irrelevance. Europe once dictated terms to the world. Now these people waits for instructions.


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Ulrich

Quote from: dsanchez on August 19, 2025, 21:22:37Are you joking?

Of course not. I saw parts of it live on telly, they were not sitting like that when they talked (that is one photo probably taken only at the first greet)!
And it is a matter of fact what Merz said to him (heard it live).

In this pic you can see how they were sitting when they discussed:

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