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Cure songs that you don't like

Started by Filipe, August 23, 2005, 01:02:56

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leipzigcure

Sorry splitmilk34, this is my point of view inasmuch as for me The Cure since the album the cure 2004 doesn´t exist anymore for me because The Cure doesn´t the same due to differente sound, images, so as the bad drummer Jason Cooper who should leave The band and return again the great Boris Williams.

I don´t really understand why today are 4 members without keyboards¿?, where is those sounds as the piano in a night like this(for example),Plan Song without keyboards? believe me sounds very terrible.

For me The Cure will continue in my heart and mind only the years 1979 since 2003 only.

Cheers!!! :D

Leipzigcure "Secrets share with another girl, I Wish I was your.."


Janko

 :-D :-D :)

WELL, THE 2004 ALBUM WAS NOT THAT BAD...
I MEAN...
SOME SONGS ARE UP TO STANDARD (PROMISE, TEOTW, BEFORE THREE, LOST...)
SOME SONGS ARE LOUSY BUT THEN AGAING I CAN FORGIVE THAT
IT WAS A NOBLE ATTEMPT TO COMMERCIALISE THE BAND AFTER "BLOODFLOWERS" SEMIRETIREMENT
THE SESSIONS WERE ALWAYS IN TURMOIL AND SOME SONGS PROVED FANTASTIC (SADLY, ALL ENDED AS B-SIDES)
JASON IS A GREAT DRUMMER (PLEASE BORIS, DONT COME BACK! DONT EVEN LOOK BACK!)
PERRY IS A GREAT GUITARIST (IT'S TOTALLY VISIBLE NOW WHEN PORL'S BACK)
...
ALL IN ALL, DONT COMPARE "THE CURE" TO "METAL MACHINE MUSIC" BECAUSE THAT'S KINDA OVER THE TOP... "PC&L" WAS A GREAT ALBUM AND STILL IS... IF ONLY "THE CURE" SOUNDED LIKE "PC&L" ...

:smth023 :smth020 :roll:

Fatter than Bob, balder than Porl, as sober as Simon, as amusing as Jason

Bloodflower

"The Cure" is probably my least favourite attempt by the band (or perhaps Three Imaginary Boys is...), but I would't call it bad per se. Like every post-Disintegration album (minus Bloodflowers), "The Cure" suffers from poor tracklisting. To my mind, the b-sides from "The Cure" are far better than most of the main album. And while others have argued that sometimes hiding a great song on the flipside of a single is a great thing, make it all the more special, I disagree. To me, the main, concentrated effort should always be the album, not the supporting singles. Had "The Cure"'s tracklisting looked included This Morning, Fake, Why Can't I Be Me?, and Your God is Fear, and dropped Us or Them and Never, it would be a a much stronger effort.

And while people moan about the lyrics to a song like Lost, I still enjoy it.

And while people moan about The Promise simply being a reworking of The Kiss, I still enjoy it.

And while people moan about Taking Off sounding like a Just Like Heaven ripoff, I still enjoy it.

Do you see a pattern yet?

The thing that I dislike most about "The Cure" is the more guitar-oriented direction the album took the band. I love the keyboard aspect of the band; I love the soft, melodic side of the band. I have no use for Us or Them. And I will say that, for the most, the vocals on "The Cure" are really bad... but I chalk this up to Robert's age (those vocal chords can't remain in stasis forever) and that "The Cure" was supposedly recorded live. Which is probably a mistake.

But overall, a decent album, if ridiculously sub what I've come to expect out of the Man from Crawley.
Another Curefan for The Dark Christmas album.


splitmilk34

Janko - I agree.  PC&L IS a great album (it's everything after it that I dislike).  And I wasn't comparing "The Cure" to "Metal Machine Music"... I was saying that it's not near as bad as "Metal Machine Music". 
Bloodflower - I couldn't agree more.  If the B-sides you listed were on the album rather than "Us or Them" or "I Don't Know What's Going On" than the album would've been astounding (in my opinion).  But I still like it.  "The Promise" is epic (and nowhere near a reworking of "The Kiss"... not even the same chord structure). 

I don't mean to start arguments, I just get passionate about some things.  To me, you cannot call yourself a fan and then state "so-and-so died for me in 2003."  But, I will not begrudge anyone their opinion just because I do not share it.  I think I can appreciate leipzigcure's honesty. 

Back to work...
"... sleeping less every night"

ohhfushia

it can't that bad if it includes robert's voice.but there is just one song that is annoying me.it is called "(I Don't Know What's Going) On"

but it seems to me that robert likes to make this kind of song for kidding himself.and this idea's close to me.

and most of songs are about the "mood".

and i never judge robert smith(or any other artist who i like them).if you don't like some songs,just don't listen to them.

Carnage Visor

I DON'T, CAN'T, AND WILL NOT HATE any of their songs. There are some I don't really care for, and I kind of dislike their later stuff because of the loss of what I feel was the essential "Cure" sound. But I like them so, so much that I can't even bring myself to hate any of their songs...Even the goofy ones that most people don't like. :-D

japanesebaby

i think several songs from 'the cure' were actually not that bad on the album but never worked live.

'lost' is plain awful live - and they even started concerts with it in 2004! what a suicide, huh...  :roll:
it doesn't make me skip the track on the album but i regularly do that when listening live shows. the more i hear it, the more i just can't believe they kept it as an opener and kept doing it, over and over again!

'us or them' is crap but it's still much much better on the album. live versions are torturous, just a boring wall of noise without any dynamics at all.

'the end of the world' - imo honestly it's a great song on the album (and together with the video, pretty perfect). but never worked live at all. poor robert just can't sing it.

i was going to say "it's funny how your tastes change over time" but it's nothing funny, it's just relieveing and natural. if they didn't change there would be reason to get worried i suppose. anyway, what i was saying: for reasons i could never explain to myself i used to dislike 'dressing up', now i find myself rather fond of it. yet today i just can't stand 'kyoto song' for a minute. it's dreadfully long and musically so utterly banal, nothing in it. sometimes it annoys me to the point of....
yet some things don't change (which is also a good sign i suppose):
like 'young americans' is just as **** today as it always was.
etc.
Ay, in the very temple of Delight
Veil'd Melancholy has her sovran shrine

japanesebaby

talking about äthe cure', i think i need to come back to this:

Quote from: ohhfushia on May 16, 2007, 17:27:47
but there is just one song that is annoying me.it is called "(I Don't Know What's Going) On"

i think i've never said this before but it's always been a bit surprising to me that lots of people seem to name this one as being especially bad and useless.
because imo (and i DO stand behind my conviction and think that i have grounds for it too) it's one of the strongest track on the whole album what comes to the structure/composition. it actually has a rather clever "overlap structure" if you listen to it and which makes it a really well-designed, well though-of, compact thing. it's not a pointless idle whatever kind of throwaway thing like something like 'sugar girl'. it's much more tight. also, the up/down vocals of "to me at all" are one of the few rays of light of pure invention on the whole album. so (and i think i can say this without making it a question of personal taste/preferation) purely songwriting-wise it's a HELL of a LOT more better than something like 'lost'. in this respect it doesn't matter to me "what the song is about" or whether it has "less to say" than 'lost' or something. it's simply a much much better composition.
that doesn't mean one has to like it though. you can say something is good and you can admire something and recognize it's merits but still admit you don't especially like it. there's nothing strange or contradictory in that. not everything that is "good" is necessarily your favorite/close to your heart.
so i just think this song deserves some merit, even if people didn't especially like it. because it's definitely not a bad song.
Ay, in the very temple of Delight
Veil'd Melancholy has her sovran shrine

Carnage Visor

The 13th. I was hoping it would be like their early gothic stuff, but it was surprisingly lame.

poksi

Quote from: leipzigcure on May 15, 2007, 17:45:19
....in as much as for me The Cure since the album the cure 2004 doesn´t exist anymore for me because The Cure doesn´t the same due to differente sound, images, so as the bad drummer Jason Cooper who should leave The band and return again the great Boris Williams.

I don´t really understand why today are 4 members without keyboards¿?, where is those sounds as the piano in a night like this(for example),Plan Song without keyboards? believe me sounds very terrible.

This is also my opinion. I think with a new drummer and of course with a new keyborder their songs would have again more power and depth. You know mostly live there is missing something.
I don't like the mostly songs of the wild moon swing album.
catch me if I fall, I'm loosing hold....

caithness

Here is my two cents on cure songs I dislike...
I abhor Friday I'm in love. I dislike never enough, wrong number, icing sugar (because it was before perfect girl, which I love).



Bloodflower

I wouldn't say I HATE these songs, but....

Never
Us or Them
Screw
Fight
Never Enough
Wendy Time
Object
Meathook
So What
Foxy Lady
Another Curefan for The Dark Christmas album.

Julie

I'm surprised that Just Say Yes hasn't been mentionned that often here, it's by far my least favourite Cure song.

I don't like Wendy Time either, although the Play Out version is alright.

Bloodflower

I dislike Just Say Yes, but it's grown on me, I think.
Another Curefan for The Dark Christmas album.

Carnage Visor

Why so much hatred for "So What?" and "Meathook"? I think they rock! :rocker

So What is funny, it sounds like Robert was really drunk when he did that...