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Started by dsanchez, October 12, 2023, 21:12:27

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dsanchez

The ICC announces applications for arrest warrants in relation to Benjamin Netanyahu and Yoav Gallant in the context of the situation in the State of Palestine :smth023

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dsanchez

Jordan minister calls out Netanyahu after his UN speech:

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dsanchez

"This feature length investigation by Al Jazeera's Investigative Unit exposes Israeli war crimes in the Gaza Strip through the medium of photos and videos posted online by Israeli soldiers themselves during the year long conflict"

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dsanchez

Worth watching:
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Ulrich

Worth reading:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c70zke9lqjro

QuoteLebanon's prime minister at the time of its last war with Israel in 2006 has told the BBC his country has been abandoned by the international community.

Fouad Siniora said it was unacceptable to leave Lebanon to fall, and there was a lack of initiative when it came to trying to restore peace.

"We are now in a very difficult situation that requires real effort locally, as well on the Arab side and internationally.

"You can push things - sometimes to the brink of falling - in a major catastrophe without really realising what it means later on.

"It's happening at a time when the American administration is so busy with the elections.

"And we are unable to elect a president, because some groups in the country, particularly Hezbollah, have been insisting that they want a president that will not stab that group in the back," Siniora said.

The last war between Lebanon and Israel, nearly 20 years ago, began when Hezbollah fighters crossed the border and attacked Israeli soldiers. Two were kidnapped and three were killed, sparking a month-long conflict.

In the days that followed, Siniora made a public statement distancing the Lebanese government from what had happened.

He thinks the country's current leaders have failed their people by not doing the same thing.

"Practically, Lebanon as a state has been kidnapped by Hezbollah. And behind Hezbollah is Iran.

"This gun that was held by Hezbollah, instead of being pointed towards Israel, started to be pointed domestically and started to be used as a way for Iran to interfere in Syria, in Iraq, in Yemen. Lebanon can't get involved in such a war."


I think he's quite right, too many people do support the terrorists (actively or by doing nothing).
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dsanchez

"The fact that he's put this onto video, he's released this on YouTube... to me it's quite extraordinary, the degree of impunity." Retired British Army Major-General Charlie Herbert, who features in our documentary, was horrified by some of the material we showed him.
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dsanchez

"In this conversation, Kennard dives deep into US hegemony and foreign policy, especially in light of Israel's ongoing war on Gaza. He also unpacks the broader implications of US imperialism, the upcoming US elections, and why he believes Gaza has "exposed the US empire like never before".

Great interview, watch/listen if you have a moment, specially 41:34 Gaza exposed US 'like never before':

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dsanchez

When a young American Jewish woman raised to support Israel unconditionally witnesses the way her country treats Palestinians, it transforms her life. Watch the film "Israelism" below:

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dsanchez

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Ulrich

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c789v89e5djo

QuoteThe White House's envoy, Steve Witkoff, is in Qatar to join indirect talks between Israel and Hamas on extending the fragile ceasefire in Gaza.

P.S.: Please don't forget there's even worse things going on in the world, e.g. in Sudan with millions threatened by conflicts and hunger. Or this:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp8vyl3j5kko
Sahel:
The region with more 'terror deaths' than rest of world combined!!  :1f635:
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dsanchez

Quote from: Ulrich on March 12, 2025, 18:35:01P.S.: Please don't forget there's even worse things going on in the world, e.g. in Sudan with millions threatened by conflicts and hunger. Or this:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp8vyl3j5kko
Sahel:
The region with more 'terror deaths' than rest of world combined!!  :1f635:

Absolutely! But this topic is about Gaza and there are a few differences between the situation there and other conflicts around the world:

- The ongoing Israel apartheid on Palestinians (nearly 58 years now)
- The ongoing Gaza genocide (Israel has now cut food supplies and electricity to Gaza)
- The complicit silent of West nations that rightfully called out the Russian invasion of Ukraine, but don't care about Israel's behavior. Zero sanctions or even comments from the EU so far.
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Ulrich

Quote from: dsanchez on March 13, 2025, 12:22:25Absolutely! But this topic is about Gaza

Yeah there should be more topics (or one big topic about all the wars...)!

Quote from: dsanchez on March 13, 2025, 12:22:25- The ongoing Israel apartheid on Palestinians (nearly 58 years now)

Not true, can't blame this on Israel alone, the state did not exist in 1945-47 and it was the "Allies" who decided to re-create that state (I think it was the UK who reigned over Palestine back then?).
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dsanchez

Quote from: Ulrich on March 13, 2025, 12:32:42Not true, can't blame this on Israel alone, the state did not exist in 1945-47 and it was the "Allies" who decided to re-create that state (I think it was the UK who reigned over Palestine back then?).

Is 58 years of Israel (considered since 1967) apartheid already:

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2022/03/israels-55-year-occupation-palestinian-territory-apartheid-un-human-rights
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Ulrich

Quote from: dsanchez on March 13, 2025, 12:35:15Is 58 years of Israel (considered since 1967)

Yes, but don't forget many of them came from the "holocaust" and the country was/is surrounded by enemies. The EU have not forgotten...
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dsanchez

Quote from: Ulrich on March 13, 2025, 12:39:03
Quote from: dsanchez on March 13, 2025, 12:35:15Is 58 years of Israel (considered since 1967)
Yes, but don't forget many of them came from the "holocaust" and the country was/is surrounded by enemies. The EU have not forgotten...

They (Israel) have made an awful PR form themselves in the last year. For the new generations, the holocaust they know more (and have seen in real time) is the one in Gaza. It's very sad to see the same horrors from the past repeating once more.
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