The album got pushed to 2008, more like an April/May release

[dsanchez]

If they release something like "The Cure II", they'll be finished!

Not for the truly fans. I will follow them until the end!

[scatcat]

Not for the truly fans. I will follow them until the end!

Same...     

but be careful of the mentioning of 'real' curefans...

[Oso Blanco]

at least ross robinson   hasn't been around this time, screwing things up...

A producer can't turn shit into gold, so don't hold your breath! The reason for the last album being a huge disappointment wasn't the production alone. It was because of lazy and uninspired songwriting!

[figurehead]

THE CURE ~FOREVER~

[scatcat]

THE CURE ~FOREVER~

my heart my soul.. my every breathe..

[scatcat]

at least ross robinson   hasn't been around this time, screwing things up...

A producer can't turn shit into gold, so don't hold your breath! The reason for the last album being a huge disappointment wasn't the production alone. It was because of lazy and uninspired songwriting!

@Oso Blanco... I can't beleieve this..  :!:

judge for your self when the new album does come out for release..
IMHO... The Cure have given almost 30 years if music, songs and concerts.. Not many bands last that long... without releasing of the 'Best Of' album.

If they want to give it a final spin.. well, it is well deserved.
I have feelings, about the 'longevity' of The Cure, But I still cannot believe that either Robert Smith, or Simon, are ready to hang up their guitars and writing of music yet.

The 'coffin' thingy just made me react... discussions about whether they still have it in them , etc..

hope. 

[dsanchez]

@Oso Blanco... I can't beleieve this..  :!:

Well, Oso Blanco is not a Cure fan, so I certanly can believe this

[scatcat]

@Oso Blanco... I can't believe this..  :!:

Well, Oso Blanco is not a Cure fan, so I certainly can believe this

I am the fool .... me siento ansiosa!!! 

[Joe]

@Oso Blanco... I can't beleieve this..  :!:

Well, Oso Blanco is not a Cure fan, so I certanly can believe this

Because he's being critical?

[scatcat]

A producer can't turn shit into gold, so don't hold your breath! The reason for the last album being a huge disappointment wasn't the production alone. It was because of lazy and uninspired songwriting!

i disagree.... a good producer CAN TURN sh*t into Gold... ( we'll leave this for another thread..  :twisted:)
iF YOU DON'T LIKE... don't listen..

[dsanchez]

Because he's being critical?

I have been following Oso Blanco's messages and it reminds me very much to Cult_Hero (former Curefans.com member).

I mean, I don't see much sense talking bad all the time about a band in a forum of fans of this band. Just the fact to compare The Cure with Morrissey and say that Morrissey is best live act than The Cure (??) is nuts. Of course, is an opinion, and everyone is feel to express their point of view. But from there to critizase all the time the band?. That's not what a fan does. Sorry, I just don't see the point. Maybe people who want to complain all the time about The Cure should post here instead: Reasons Why All Should Hate The Cure

[dsanchez]

i disagree.... a good producer CAN TURN sh*t into Gold...

I suggested some years ago in another forum that the best producer for band such as The Cure would be defintely Mr. Brian Eno (best producer ever?). I still can't get how a producer of bands like Korn can produce a band like The Cure, which is something totally different.

[scatcat]

Because he's being critical?

"CRITICAL'?.... hmmm.. criticism   is encouraged, opinions are encouraged, and people's input is certainly a contribution to this site.

[Joe]

Because he's being critical?

I have been following Oso Blanco's messages and it reminds me very much to Cult_Hero (former Curefans.com member).

I mean, I don't see much sense talking bad all the time about a band in a forum of fans of this band. Just the fact to compare The Cure with Morrissey and say that Morrissey is best live act than The Cure (??) is nuts. Of course, is an opinion, and everyone is feel to express their point of view. But from there to critizase all the time the band?. That's not what a fan does. Sorry, I just don't see the point. Maybe people who want to complain all the time about The Cure should post here instead: Reasons Why All Should Hate The Cure

Good points dsanchez, and I had no idea such a site like that existed 

Scatcat, yes, that's what I meant, criticism.

[splitmilk34]

As someone who's produced music - A good producer CANNOT turn shit into gold.  What a good producer can (and should) do is help motivate the songwriters write good parts, help them create the sounds/layers they're aiming for and provide a practical ear to the songs.  But when it comes down to it, if the core of the song sucks then everything else is just window dressing.  A bad song buried in lots of layers of music is still a bad song...

That being said, "The Cure" (the album) is seriously not as bad as you all are making it out to be.  There are some real gems on that album - like Lost, Labyrinth, alt.end, Taking Off, The Promise, Anniversary and (to a degree) Before Three.  Even the "lesser" songs on the album (ie End of the World) have some degree of melodicism to them that make them digestable. 

I honestly can't sit around and blame Ross for anything that happened in 2004.  He certainly played a factor - but we all know that Robert calls the shots, no matter what he says.  That's always been the case.  And you can't tell me that "The Cure" is any worse than "The Top" - which, for all intents and purposes, is an absolute train-wreck of an album.  That doesn't mean it's bad -but those songs, with the exception of Shake Dog Shake, Birdmad Girl and Piggy in the Mirror just don't hold up anymore.

I am as excited about this new release as I've ever been.  I really think it'll be strong and, at the end of the day, The Cure are only making records for themselves anyway.  I'm sure Robert and Porl and Simon and Jason are not concerned with winning new fans.

There will always be Cure-fans.  Let's stop pointing out the negative and enjoy what time we have left with the band.