The album got pushed to 2008, more like an April/May release

[Janko]

  could go to a Metallica site and post how much I hate their music ... 

COME TO THINK OF IT...

[splitmilk34]

I apologize for getting a little crazy... that kind of stuff doesn't belong on this board and does no one any good.

[Oso Blanco]

but honestly, you seriously can't say things like it's someone's "problem" if she is wasn't able to attend the cure shows in the 80s because she wasn't even born! so come on... :roll:

You got me completely wrong! What I was trying to say is that someone who has been a fan since the mid eighties has a completely different view on The Cure than someone who became a fan with Bloodflowers or the last album. I just think that some 18 year old fan can accept the current band much easier. Maybe only someone who was with them in their good times can see how bad they are now.

Oh, and to Oso Blanco - I truly, deeply apologize for not being a 40+ year old cynic for whom the Cure is sliding out of favor.

I'm not THAT old!

[dsanchez]

Maybe only someone who was with them in their good times can see how bad they are now.

I think this topic was discussed before.

I think we'd all be better off not comparing anything the group comes out with to those 2 albums... those albums are classic for a reason:
Depeche Mode will not make another "Violator"
Morrissey will not make another "The Queen is Dead"
The Rolling Stone won't make anything meaningful anymore (and so on and so on).

Let's just appreciate that our favorite band is still creating together.

[Steve]

I apologize for getting a little crazy... that kind of stuff doesn't belong on this board and does no one any good.

No, you go ahead & "vent"
Made me smile. 

[japanesebaby]

but honestly, you seriously can't say things like it's someone's "problem" if she is wasn't able to attend the cure shows in the 80s because she wasn't even born! so come on... :roll:

You got me completely wrong! What I was trying to say is that someone who has been a fan since the mid eighties has a completely different view on The Cure than someone who became a fan with Bloodflowers or the last album. I just think that some 18 year old fan can accept the current band much easier. Maybe only someone who was with them in their good times can see how bad they are now.

Oh, and to Oso Blanco - I truly, deeply apologize for not being a 40+ year old cynic for whom the Cure is sliding out of favor.

I'm not THAT old!

but that was my whole point: if you and i found the cure in the 80s and that's the golden time for us, so be it. but if someone who wasn't even born at that time only found the band after 'bloodflowers' or the 'the cure' (and maybe only saw them live first time on this tour, if at all) and if he/she now thinks THIS is the most precious cure era for him/her, then so be it too.
the cure seems to be a band who's music somehow gets "woven" into their fans' lives, it often has quite a lot of personal meaning to their fans. thus the era when you yourself found the band often means a lot to you. and even if you later found that some earlier stages of the band were also really interesting (and maybe even better than the era which you first picked up!), the starting point often preserves its magic. so can we judge people for being attached to this or that era and say they are "wrong" when they think so?
of course we can say "IF you had been born earlier and If you had LIVED through those times in the 80s..." - we can say all that... but so what? because no matter how much ifs we throw into the wind, we all live here and now. period. if you weren't born back then then you weren't born back then and that's it. all these ifs are useless to me, both in this matter and in life in general. if is the emptiest word of them all. we all see the world the way we see it and nobody's more right and more wrong that the other because noone else can "see the world for us", so to speak. so i don't doubt that your truth is truly your truth - but it's maybe not my truth.  or someone else's truth. there are as many truths as there are people in this world. and imo, ifs don't change that

so yes, people have different perspectives according to when they hopped in, when they were born etc. but i'd ask you, what is wrong with that? at least i can't see anything wrong with it. i don't mind some people prefering different eras than i do. it doesn't affect me or what i think of the band and what i prefer myself.
if we all agreed that the 80s were THE true cure period and they are more or less crap today and so on - what kind of board would we have here? we'd be a bunch of if not 40+ then at least 30+ old buggers competing in complaining about how bad the times are now. at least i'd much rather have a board that has a variety of different opinions and people attached to different cure eras.


ps. although i disagree with some of what you've said and i disagree with your aggressive tone, i have to give you some real credit for bringing some life to this board: for once people are discussing the music and not something like "what did i eat for breakfast today" etc. :-P so even if we disagree on some matters, igniting people a bit here is good and it's something i do agree with...

[Oso Blanco]

so yes, people have different perspectives according to when they hopped in, when they were born etc. but i'd ask you, what is wrong with that?

Nothing. I didn't say there was something wrong with that. I just stated the fact that it does change your perspective.

i disagree with your aggressive tone

I'm not aggressive, I just don't see the point in sweet talking around the obvious.

i have to give you some real credit for bringing some life to this board

Thank you. Suddenly this place doesn't seem to be that boring after all ...

[Oso Blanco]

on wms they had some great songs like the 13th. and for me i think that is what the cure was. they made things nobody expected and disagreed every marketing profi. releasing the 13th as a single was perfect for me.

I feel exactly the same. "The 13th" was a prime example of Cure-ish innovation. A quality that they lost after "Wrong Number".

By the way, nice to see you! I hope you are well!?

[billee]

Thank you. Suddenly this place doesn't seem to be that boring after all ...
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmm
I never thought of this place as being boring.

[scatcat]

I apologize for getting a little crazy... that kind of stuff doesn't belong on this board and does no one any good.

No, you go ahead & "vent"
Made me smile. 

hehe.. after logging off last night and feeling bad that I had 'vented'...( i though i was rude!!)  .. then i log in today and others have vented out of their orifices... it makes me laugh too.. everything is cool.. 

[japanesebaby]

Thank you. Suddenly this place doesn't seem to be that boring after all ...

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm
I never thought of this place as being boring.

i don't think we've been boring either. but surely, there hasn't been that much cure discussion here over the past months. there's been cure talk, for sure, but not much real discussion - and the latter one is always welcome imo (just as long as people keep it cool...). sometimes people need to get a bit heated, it can also give a positive punch to everyone...
we've all been drowsing a bit lately...
but let's stay awake now, while the tour is about to be on too!

[Curepeter]

I am a fan since late 80s and I love the last album, I think it is one of their best. I also liked the raw production (good work Ross). Furthermore their recent concerts are full of energy and alive, which was lost with the previous line-up. The "Festival 2005"-DVD is in my opinion by far more authentic than "Trilogy" and I enjoy watching it a lot (unlike Trilogy).

So to sum it up: as an old fan I'm more than satisfied with the current situation.

How different things can be...

[drowning]

I feel exactly the same. "The 13th" was a prime example of Cure-ish innovation. A quality that they lost after "Wrong Number".

By the way, nice to see you! I hope you are well!?

yes, wrong number was the last cure-ish innovation single. but i love "the end of the world" its a typical cure song, but i hate production and mixing.

nice to see you here too oso.
i am not well, at hospital high-dosis chemo, day3 today. i am in isolation for 4 weeks if everything runs fine.but the doctors speak about healing,and that is important. so no cure concert for me this tour, that makes me so sad. seeing them live is always a special moment, i can fall into the songs. get in the own cure world. listening to bootlegs or albums makes me more the musical analytic act. how would be mine mix ? why does the snare sounds sofucking and so on. jason is no bad drummer, but his drums are bad mixed, without punsh.

[drowning]

I am a fan since late 80s and I love the last album, I think it is one of their best. I also liked the raw production (good work Ross). Furthermore their recent concerts are full of energy and alive, which was lost with the previous line-up. The "Festival 2005"-DVD is in my opinion by far more authentic than "Trilogy" and I enjoy watching it a lot (unlike Trilogy).

So to sum it up: as an old fan I'm more than satisfied with the current situation.

How different things can be...

i don´t like the last album so much. don´t like the songs so much. there are some good ones ( lost, promise, eotw,..) and crappy ones ( before three, alt.end,...)

but i like the festival dvd more than trilogy.trilogy is played with less emotion s. the festival reminds me on the cure rock band. the backing tapes are not so bad at the festival dvd as on trilogy. porl rocks more than perry and rodger.
so i hope the new album is gloomier, harder, more rock and less pop, or this treasue things......

but robert is not 20 anymore. he has other things in mind. not the first love, the first heartbrake...

[scatcat]

but robert is not 20 anymore. he has other things in mind. not the first love, the first heartbrake...

i always thought Robert's first love was the Band... I mean, what an exceptional woman mary is to put up with so much in those early years??

I'm sure there are quite a lot of us out there who have had their heart broken more than once.. Bob's been wtih Mary since the 80's!!