The album got pushed to 2008, more like an April/May release

[Janko]

I THINK THERE MIGHT BE PROBLEMS WITH THE DOUBLE ALBUM IDEA...

I'M A HUGE FAN BUT I DONT BELIVE THE BAND HAS IT IN THEM TO MAKE 30+ DECENT SONGS TO PUT OUT A SUCCESFULL DOUBLE ALBUM AND I WOULD UNDERSTAND A LABEL THAT HESITATES WITH FINANCING SUCH ADVENTURE...

:(

[crowbi_wan]

During that MTV Winter interview, didn't Robert say the album was done and would probably be a single album?  I uploaded the interview only it's been deleted from youtube.     Does anyone remember?

[Plainsong]

During that MTV Winter interview, didn't Robert say the album was done and would probably be a single album?  I uploaded the interview only it's been deleted from youtube.     Does anyone remember?

Yes, he did and he said he had until Easter to decide the final track list, I think...
I wonder if there are record company dealings going on now that are delaying things.

[nausearockpig]

there's no urgency anymore. what with them all being millionaires etc.. i imagine that back when Seventeen Seconds was about to be released, there was a certain fiscal urgency to the release and tour, now, not so much... $$$ = lazier than before

[rodney]

COF is now reporting a Sept 16th release date.

[DJscribbles]

COF is now reporting a Sept 16th release date.

thats what i heard too, but whats COF?

[crowbi_wan]

COF is now reporting a Sept 16th release date.

thats what i heard too, but whats COF?

Umm...you just made a post there.

DJ scribbles said...
aww... i was really hoping it would be at least in early june, but thats probably impossible.

this might be a stupid question - but how did you find out? neither the cure or the record company has given the exact date

April 22, 2008 11:10 PM

[lostflower4]

I'm surprised so many people readily believe what's posted on Chain of Flowers. I don't believe September 16 any more than the dates that have been floating around a few days ago.

Let's just face it:  We don't know.

[nausearockpig]

Let's just face it:  We don't know.

I think we're not the only ones who don't know!!! ;-)

[bloodflowersuk]

YOU GUYS ARE SO IMPATIENT!

Why would they release the album before they finish the USA tour?

They will finish the tour in June then I expect will have a rest then put finishing touches to the album and prepare release for about Oct/Nov in time for the Christmas market.

By this time Robert will have had a rest and be fit for all the PR activity related to a new release.

It is called MARKETING.

BE PATIENT - I THINK IT WILL BE WORTH THE WAIT!!!!!!!!

[japanesebaby]

YOU GUYS ARE SO IMPATIENT!

Why would they release the album before they finish the USA tour?

hmmm but i think the question could rather be why are they even touring without the album?:

and i'm not impatient. honestly i don't really care when it's released/if it's even ever released. by that i don't mean i don't care about it, just that i don't see point worrying.
and even though the 4tour european shows were really good shows (imo), i think the whole thing has been a fiasco, ever since the US tour got cancelled.

(marketing? uhhh one of the words i don't like - has nothing to do with art/music. and so to me postponing something for marketing reasons equals crap reasons.)

[bloodflowersuk]

They are touring BEFORE the album because they have a huge dedicated following  they know will buy the album. Unlike smaller bands who tour to promote their album.

I like this about Robert. He has justified confidence in his fanbase.

Marketing is of paramount importance to record companies not artists. However the two have to work together to ensure success!!!!

[japanesebaby]

They are touring BEFORE the album because they have a huge dedicated following  they know will buy the album. Unlike smaller bands who tour to promote their album.

i didn't mean that couldn't be the case. i just meant that one could just as well ask why they tour without the album than to ask why would they release the album before finishing the tour - both are just as good (or bad) explanations. neither one "explains" anything. whichever way one looks at it (even when one didn't even want to be sarcastic/tried to remain positive and confident about the band), i think the fact remains that it's been bit of a fiasco ever since last year, like i said. clearly things have not been going as planned. when they originally announced the original (and then cancelled) US tour, they very clearly meant to tour AFTER the album was out. the plans were changed because they can't seem to finish(?) the album, for whatever reasons. and so i just mean that i don't think we can say they originally meant to tour without an album out, just to please their dedicated fanbase. that's not the same as saying they couldn't/shouldn't do that, of course. i don't object it. but i just mean that originally they probably never planned to tour without an album anyway...

Marketing is of paramount importance to record companies not artists. However the two have to work together to ensure success!!!!

yes of course, i don't deny this. i simply meant that personally i'm not at all interested in any potential commercial success, only in the potential artistic success. and that alone is not connected to marketing/commercial success/what the record sompany thinks or wants.

[PrettyToy712]

so, I've been posting up a storm on the COF blogspot about all of this...but, seriously...Robert obviously IS concerned with the following because he, himself, said that part of him wants to release the commercial material to bring people into the world of the Cure again...and another part of him wants to say to hell with it and release the doom and gloom...so...obviously he is concerned, at least in part, with bringing in new fans or whatever...otherwise he wouldn't have said that.

I think the Cure definitely has a loyal fan base that would make it out to the shows to support them...but come on...touring when you haven't had an album out in 4 years is a bit of a stretch. I know most bands tour to PROMOTE their CD...but even when most other bands tour without having a new CD out it's usually within the first year or two after their last album came out. Maybe if they hadn't wasted time in 2007 playing some of those other shows they could have been in the studio that whole time ensuring that they would have the new album out before the planned 4europe shows and US tour.

As japanesebaby pointed out...I think the reason the Cure postponed the US tour was to FINISH the album to ensure that it would be out before the re-scheduled shows kicked off again in the spring...otherwise, what was the point of postponing the tour at all?! as I said on COF, they could have played the original tour dates, as planned, and still made it back into the studio by, what? November? December at the latest? and STILL could have had time to crank the album out by May or June...but, here we are...7 months later with no new album and the tour still hasn't kicked off. So that postponement was for nothing.

Maybe the Cure have absolutely rock-solid reasons as to why the new album hasn't been put out yet or why it's being rescheduled AGAIN for September, now...but we wouldn't know that because they basically tell the fans to f*ck off by not posting ANY news about the new album on the official website...we have to resort to hearing about the postponements from unofficial sites...it's ridiculous.

[[labyrinth]]

this is from COF:

Wednesday, April 23, 2008
Cure in LA, mastering new album

Just want everyone to understand that this is third hand info and is NOT 100% confirmed. I did contact Brian Gardner and he confirmed that he has worked on "new stuff" with them. Anyway, it's the first bit of good news we've had in awhile, so here it is:

"The Cure were in Los Angeles on April 21, 2008 at the Mastering Lab in Los Angeles.
Brian Gardner mastered the new album.
Robert Smith mixed it.
The new album will be a double.
I heard this personally from a source that was with The Cure, listening to their new album."

Ok, so if true, the album is done. So why is Universal holding it until September? They must have a good reason, right?
(Thanks Anonymous)