there's no business like shoe business

[ROGUE]

I agree very disrespectful towards the audience,  aswell.   They didnt pay to watch a lazy b@stard get his shoes changed...

~I didnt realise in the 'other shoe'  topic- 
                                                              that tof's shoes are the same one's Robert wore in the Melb concert- Now i want a pair too 

[japanesebaby]

I dont know, but it looked like he was wearing 'jesus' sandles, or old man sandles, before the 'helper' changed them.

i'd have to take a better look but at least he seems to be find of them today so you could have been right:



besides, anything with 'jesus' in it would be so fitting for him now wouldn't it? after all, he's supposed to be the guy sitting on god's right side on those days when jesus is kinda busy, right?

[japanesebaby]

I think it's pathetic, that he can't even put on hs own shoes and to do it during a song. He could of waited, til the end of it.

yes i think it very well displays his character: he actually wanted to make a show out of it because obviously he genuinely does think that anything and everything he does is the most goddamn amazing thing ever under the sun. so yeah, that's just so pathetic.
a mental comparison: can you imagine someone like robert ever doing the same? hell i can't even imagine him being so utterly stupid that he'd put on a wrong pair of shoes when going on stage - even if he was dead-drunk (as he sometimes used to be during live shows, have to admit that ) he wouldn't have done anything that monkey-ish. not to mention embarrassing everyone with some shoe-changing operation in the middle of 'the kiss'?  just think of it...

[japanesebaby]

ok sorry to post three times in a row here, that's pretty lame of me.
anyway, let's have some more "gorgeous" bono moments...:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3854328306060790615

if you ask me, this is not just stupid, this is plain torturous to watch.
:roll:

[ROGUE]

Nope Robert respects his fans  

God Bono, that pic just ewwww- and the jesus sandles, ewwww, Seeing that clip (of Bono) really does say alot more than any description of him could.... thats just so pig headed and yuck.

Iam too frightened to watch any more Bono- but cant resist, Need input.....


* * JUST Watched it, shi, first i thought my screen was freezing, then i thought- He is mentally unwell, and that sheep-ish laugh  neeehahahha  neeeeahahahahah of one of the goons,  so stupid had to laugh. But he is just so yuck. 

[Lady]

Japanesebaby, you are very very cruel   because this video reminds me of those days when I saw the vertigo tour in italy, almost under the stage, very close to bono...and I miss so much those moments...  :(

Bono is always so funny during u2's concerts...he often joke around these situations, always sweet with his fans and with the paparazzi, too! :roll:

Bono is the one!

[Cure Freak]

if you ask me, this is not just stupid, this is plain torturous to watch.
:roll:

Couldn't agree with you more. I couldn't even watch it til the end. It's so bad.

yes i think it very well displays his character: he actually wanted to make a show out of it because obviously he genuinely does think that anything and everything he does is the most goddamn amazing thing ever under the sun. so yeah, that's just so pathetic.
a mental comparison: can you imagine someone like robert ever doing the same? hell i can't even imagine him being so utterly stupid that he'd put on a wrong pair of shoes when going on stage - even if he was dead-drunk (as he sometimes used to be during live shows, have to admit that ) he wouldn't have done anything that monkey-ish. not to mention embarrassing everyone with some shoe-changing operation in the middle of 'the kiss'?  just think of it...

I agree. And I can't see Robert ever doing this. He has to much devotion to his fans.

[Lady]

Ok but we can't think Robert is God and that everyone who doesn't make things as him is wrong...every artist has a different approach to his audience...

[ROGUE]

Personal choice really,. Probably many things I like ~ that you dont Lady 
and thank god we are all different,

But to me ~ I just think Robert is so perfect, everything he does, I like other artists aswell - very different to Robert. No rights or wrongs, just opinions, Hope no offense taken, None meant.  :smth001

Yeh Cure Freak - I laughed thinking how pathetic the last clip was. - even youtube it has 'no ratings'- so not just a few that think it yuck.

Just my opinion and sense of humour.

[japanesebaby]

if you ask me, this is not just stupid, this is plain torturous to watch.
:roll:

Couldn't agree with you more. I couldn't even watch it til the end. It's so bad.

i haven't been able to watch it through on one sitting either, not then and not now.
i find it so amazing that he (bono) obviously thinks he's very funny there - he's so fooled by the image of himself being something superhuman that he can't see his own stupidity...

it's always been the problem with that band: they've tried to be self-ironic several times over the years, like during later stages of zoo tv for instance. but it's just just been so embarrassing, every time... because seriously, one simply cannot achieve to be self-rionic if one's so full of himself at the same time! they cannot laugh at themselves because they take themselves so damn seriously. it's just "look at me am i just so funny oh yes i think i am oh it's so great to be me everybody behold!" - ok everyone knows that that's just utter bullshit.
i can't see anything funny in u2, not even if i really really try. you cjust an't both elevate yourself above other living creatures and make fun of yourself at the same time. it's a stillborn idea.

[japanesebaby]

Ok but we can't think Robert is God and that everyone who doesn't make things as him is wrong...every artist has a different approach to his audience...

robert is God? certainly not! i'm the first one here to say that all that is just complete bullshit. i actually really dislike it when people need to worship their idols as persons, just like marvelling their art wasn't enough. i can't find anything godlike in robert (or in any other human either) and like i've said on this board before, i don't feel any need to idolize anyone outside their art.

and sure, every artist has a different approach and i'll allow them that of course. obviously there's something that people find attractive in u2, since so many like them. but personally i feel they work the same way as many charity organizations: they arvertize their mission and try to make people feel a bit guilty. and when people start feeling guilty they become vulnerable and they make donations. and after making a donation people feel done their part, they feel better about themselves - so what actually happens there is that people arebuying themselves a good conscience.
i alwasy see u2 as an equivalent of that in music: people support them and them they feel good about themselves because trhough this band they feel like they are participating in something and making the world a better place to be. ok don't get me wrong, i'm not saying it's all completely worthless, obviously there is some good in it too. but it's still so pompous and so empty, it's like the bought conscience after all.

anyway, about my comparison with robert once more: i surely didn't make it in order to try and prove how robert is some sort of messiah and role model in everything. because he's not (and besides, i could have picked some other artists there for comparison too, it didn't have to be robert. he was just a natural choice since this actually is a cure board hehe). so i just made the comparison to demonstrate how much more respect artists like robert have towards their audiences. they don't make people watch bullshit like that and think they are so great for it and insist that they just offered everyone something really unique! i mean christ, the first lesson of ANY performing artists is to respect his/her audience. you fail that and you fail everything. that's the truth, i dare to say.


**edit:

PS. i didn't start this thread to piss anyone off (i do know there are people here who like u2) or start any kind of useless "oh look how horrendous, now ROBERT would EVER do that, he's so great" crap either. so maybe my comparison with robert was not an idea well thought of. i'd also like to add that i've actually been a fan of u2 in the past years, i still like their early stuff. maybe that's why i also feel  that i can ruthlessly bash them too, if i see it fit. because i've followed their career over the years and seen them turning into a complete opposite of what i thought they originally stood for, what they originally represented - i think they lost themselves because they started love each other, their own image, too much. they used to be a VERY strong band, with a very storng message and sharp music. but all that got lost as they started to enjoy looking into the mirror.... and so today, yes i do think that was unforgivable and i do think it has ruined their music, their art. and believe me i feel bad about it because i turly used to like them! but they are too happy with themselves and so everything they do today is kind of pointless. it's been long since they was any "spark" in them, any such friction that originally made them begin and create music... for me they are just an empty image - and even though i sitll liek their early stuff, i find it hard to forgive them what they've become today.
anyway, i've no problems with someone liking them, not at all. :smth001 but personally i also do find it strange that SO many people are still so fond of them, that's all.

[Lady]

Embarassing??? ??

Bono (as Freddie Mercury) is the best performer ever, there's so many pathos at u2's concerts...
U2 have changed the concept of the live performance: not just music but something more, a real contact with their audience deeper...

Ok if you don't like this kind of artist, but you (generally) can't say he's stupid or something like this...please more respect for the leader of a band who wrote the music's history. :roll:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W808IxKofWo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWUFHmAUZm4&mode=related&search=

[japanesebaby]

Ok if you don't like this kind of artist, but you (generally) can't say he's stupid or something like this...please more respect for the leader of a band who wrote the music's history. :roll:

please do read the PS. that i just added to my last post above.  :smth001

[Lady]

Ok japanesebaby! :smth001
The messages come faster than what I write and I read yours just now!

[ROGUE]

Love Freddy, but Bono- From what i have seen here and else where.....(& music wise)

Well my understanding of 'respect' is that is has to be earnt., To me, he hasnt earnt mine.  . . . .  Maybe you have a deeper understanding of him, that i cant see.
I also liked their earlier stuff.

And Lady you obviously do have good taste because you love The Cure's music

   Iam glad we are all different, otherwise there would be nothing to talk about, at all...