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splitmilk34 · October 30, 2008, 17:57:32

If anyone wants to listen to an album that truly, without fail, has been produced right - with love and care - than you only need to pick up Sky Blue Sky by Wilco (or A Ghost is Born by Wilco). There is life, breath and space on those records that simply doesn't exist in the popular music landscape anymore.

japanesebaby · October 30, 2008, 19:09:57

Quote from: Janko on October 30, 2008, 15:14:41
Quote from: japanesebaby on October 30, 2008, 09:59:29"OK let's just accept everything although it's kind of crap, but hey, who cares it's too bothersome to try and make a difference anyway, so who cares?".

Those are my thoughts exactly, but I don't feel mentally defeated at all...

that's the type of modern slavery people voluntarily agree these days (strangely enough): they don't care if they are offered crappy products, crappy services, poor wages - you name it. it's all around us, in such extent that it's difficult to understand why people just don't get up and say "enough". but no, everything can be shrugged of with a "i don't care".
that's because people are so damn numb. you can call it "happiness" if you want, but it's really numbness.

Quote from: Janko on October 30, 2008, 15:14:41
I will always rather be happy than right.

oh, me too, me too. but there must be something to be happy about first.

Janko · October 30, 2008, 20:31:22

Quote from: splitmilk34 on October 30, 2008, 17:57:32Sky Blue Sky by Wilco (or A Ghost is Born by Wilco). There is life, breath and space on those records that simply doesn't exist in the popular music landscape anymore.

Hence the massive airplay ...

Janko · October 30, 2008, 20:34:25

Quote from: cane5 on October 30, 2008, 15:50:53
Does anyone know how the album is Selling.

It's pretty early...

mahood · October 30, 2008, 23:55:56

Quote from: Janko on October 30, 2008, 20:34:25
Quote from: cane5 on October 30, 2008, 15:50:53
Does anyone know how the album is Selling.
It's pretty early...

i do know : zero vinyl in france, they don't have it yet.
which was very frustrating, since there were plenty of adverts, CDs & airplays in the stores i went.

Quote from: splitmilk34 on October 30, 2008, 17:57:32
If anyone wants to listen to an album that truly, without fail, has been produced right - with love and care - than you only need to pick up Sky Blue Sky by Wilco (or A Ghost is Born by Wilco). There is life, breath and space on those records that simply doesn't exist in the popular music landscape anymore.

or go to the wonderful landscapes of unpopular music, which is another way of saying the same thing

mahood · October 31, 2008, 00:05:53

Quote from: japanesebaby on October 30, 2008, 19:09:57
Quote from: Janko on October 30, 2008, 15:14:41
I will always rather be happy than right.
oh, me too, me too. but there must be something to be happy about first.

off topic, but this has to be the most twisted conversation i've ever read, in just 2 sentences and a very few words.
as beautiful as a beckett dialogue.
you've made my day.
EDIT : i'm still trying to figure out what the hell it all means, and i don't think i will sleep tonight. and i add this, just in case i'm misinterpreted :

(maybe it adds to the confusion, i've never been so comfortable with these small yellow circles)

cane5 · October 31, 2008, 03:19:50

You have to wonder why Robert would leave off 'The boy I never knew'.While I am very happy with most of the album he could have added this one and dropped a few others.Im willing to bet that when we hear the rest of the cuts that were originally meant to be on this album we will find a few more.

carycameron · October 31, 2008, 04:14:37

Quote from: cane5 on October 31, 2008, 03:19:50
You have to wonder why Robert would leave off 'The boy I never knew'.While I am very happy with most of the album he could have added this one and dropped a few others.Im willing to bet that when we hear the rest of the cuts that were originally meant to be on this album we will find a few more.

I think it is being assumed he is saving it for the next 'dark album'. He probably felt it would be out of place on this album

cane5 · October 31, 2008, 15:08:27

carycameron

Has there been any mention as to when the dark album will be released?

PoD · October 31, 2008, 16:57:00

Here's a review about the new album:

http://www.reflectionsofdarkness.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3946&Itemid=44

carycameron · November 01, 2008, 06:48:29

Quote from: cane5 on October 31, 2008, 15:08:27
carycameron

Has there been any mention as to when the dark album will be released?

Well, Robert originally said this Christmas which is obviously not happening and later he joked maybe on his 2009 birthday. But nothing official as of yet. All the songs are apparently all recorded already so I should hope we won't have to wait another 4 years....

NeverForget · November 01, 2008, 19:19:25

Quote from: cane5 on October 31, 2008, 15:08:27
Has there been any mention as to when the dark album will be released?

I think it will be released soon...next year I suppose, at least six month and a day after this new album, says Robert, but who knows...I think on a special day.
In the end this really is the light side of a double album, as we all knew...

This if the article published on The Guardian tells the truth.
Read here (thanks CoF):
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2008/oct/30/double-album-the-cure

scatcat · November 03, 2008, 16:30:58

thanx foor that link there NeverForget

i have FINALLY got my hands on 4:13, and have yet held my comments.. it is comforting in a way to know there is a 'dark side', out there, the sound I miss.

patitodark · November 03, 2008, 17:16:28

Quote from: scatcat on November 03, 2008, 16:30:58
thanx foor that link there NeverForget

i have FINALLY got my hands on 4:13, and have yet held my comments.. it is comforting in a way to know there is a 'dark side', out there, the sound I miss.

Many of us are waiting for your review!
haha just kidding

Hope you enjoy the new album and let us know what you think about it

alt.end · November 03, 2008, 21:42:53

i listen to it at least 3x per day now. want to do a review in very near future, i will post it here for you guys later on

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