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Quote from: Simon on May 19, 2009, 18:54:41
On the disintegration sleeve it says ; "This music has been mixed to be played loud so turn it up". That might explain it all.

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Simon

Quote from: fiction on May 19, 2009, 19:04:15
Quote from: Simon on May 19, 2009, 18:54:41
On the disintegration sleeve it says ; "This music has been mixed to be played loud so turn it up". That might explain it all.

See? There are small tags all around us which simply are there to let us live our lives as smooth as possible. :lol:

Now! Enjoy!

:lol: That is true! Cheers
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The more we know the less we show.

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again and again and again and again and again and...


japanesebaby

Quote from: Simon on May 19, 2009, 18:54:41
Ok. So I checked out the differences between the Pictures of you versions now. They were both played very loud and I noticed there wasn't much difference after all.. But, if I turned down the volume a bit there were some minor differences actually.. The version on disintegration was indeed a bit distant compared to the Galore version. On the disintegration sleeve it says ; "This music has been mixed to be played loud so turn it up". That might explain it all.

ps. not sure how you did end up checking it. anyway i meant lining both tracks side by side in an audio editor and boosting the volume with a hard limiter, thus producing a "volume boost remastered" version of the original 'picture of you' . then compare that waveform to that of the 'galore' version.

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Simon

Quote from: japanesebaby on May 19, 2009, 19:39:55
Quote from: Simon on May 19, 2009, 18:54:41
Ok. So I checked out the differences between the Pictures of you versions now. They were both played very loud and I noticed there wasn't much difference after all.. But, if I turned down the volume a bit there were some minor differences actually.. The version on disintegration was indeed a bit distant compared to the Galore version. On the disintegration sleeve it says ; "This music has been mixed to be played loud so turn it up". That might explain it all.

ps. not sure how you did end up checking it. anyway i meant lining both tracks side by side in an audio editor and boosting the volume with a hard limiter, thus producing a "volume boost remastered" version of the original 'picture of you' . then compare that waveform to that of the 'galore' version.



Ah, well I didn't do that. I just played them one at the time on my computer. LOUD!
The further we go and older we grow
The more we know the less we show.

japanesebaby

Quote from: Simon on May 19, 2009, 19:43:00
Quote from: japanesebaby on May 19, 2009, 19:39:55
Quote from: Simon on May 19, 2009, 18:54:41
Ok. So I checked out the differences between the Pictures of you versions now. They were both played very loud and I noticed there wasn't much difference after all.. But, if I turned down the volume a bit there were some minor differences actually.. The version on disintegration was indeed a bit distant compared to the Galore version. On the disintegration sleeve it says ; "This music has been mixed to be played loud so turn it up". That might explain it all.

ps. not sure how you did end up checking it. anyway i meant lining both tracks side by side in an audio editor and boosting the volume with a hard limiter, thus producing a "volume boost remastered" version of the original 'picture of you' . then compare that waveform to that of the 'galore' version.



Ah, well I didn't do that. I just played them one at the time on my computer. LOUD!

ok that's not what i meant then. to be able to make a proper detailed comparison there you'd need to check them on an audio editor, by boosting the sounds to match each other.
playing them LOUD is not the same because you might just end up distorting either of the versions, especially if you used your computer speakers(?).
of perhaps you did use headphones anyway.
Ay, in the very temple of Delight
Veil'd Melancholy has her sovran shrine

Simon

Quote from: japanesebaby on May 19, 2009, 19:49:12
Quote from: Simon on May 19, 2009, 19:43:00
Quote from: japanesebaby on May 19, 2009, 19:39:55
Quote from: Simon on May 19, 2009, 18:54:41
Ok. So I checked out the differences between the Pictures of you versions now. They were both played very loud and I noticed there wasn't much difference after all.. But, if I turned down the volume a bit there were some minor differences actually.. The version on disintegration was indeed a bit distant compared to the Galore version. On the disintegration sleeve it says ; "This music has been mixed to be played loud so turn it up". That might explain it all.

ps. not sure how you did end up checking it. anyway i meant lining both tracks side by side in an audio editor and boosting the volume with a hard limiter, thus producing a "volume boost remastered" version of the original 'picture of you' . then compare that waveform to that of the 'galore' version.



Ah, well I didn't do that. I just played them one at the time on my computer. LOUD!

ok that's not what i meant then. to be able to make a proper detailed comparison there you'd need to check them on an audio editor, by boosting the sounds to match each other.
playing them LOUD is not the same because you might just end up distorting either of the versions, especially if you used your computer speakers(?).
of perhaps you did use headphones anyway.

Well, yeah. I used my computer speakers when I tested the differences ;)
The further we go and older we grow
The more we know the less we show.

alwaysprayingforRAIN

Quote from: Simon on May 19, 2009, 20:01:51

Well, yeah. I used my computer speakers when I tested the differences ;)

i don't know about your computer speakers but mine are horrible!!! everything sounds pretty messed up. by the way i know what you mean when you say it sounds a bit distant just that i think it suits disintegration and makes it even better... really a great cd and i hope the don't ruin it by 'remastering'
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cloudsandtears

Quote from: Simon on May 19, 2009, 20:01:51

Well, yeah. I used my computer speakers when I tested the differences ;)

pc or mac?    ;)   :-D

lostflower4

I'm a bit confused here...  How can you really compare the sound of the original Disintegration version and the one on Galore?  The Galore version is the single mix, which is a completely different thing. Of course it sounds different. Very different!  ;)

However, one could compare the sound of the original CD single vs. Galore, which was "remastered". Of course, the latter was compressed to be louder, although that's hardly any kind of real improvement.  :roll:

japanesebaby

Quote from: lostflower4 on May 21, 2009, 06:54:07
I'm a bit confused here...  How can you really compare the sound of the original Disintegration version and the one on Galore?  The Galore version is the single mix, which is a completely different thing. Of course it sounds different. Very different!  ;)

you're absolutely right. heh you caught me, 'galore' is the only cure album release i don't own. i never thought it necessary to buy it because there's nothing on it that i don't already have elsewhere. that's why i also totally forgot that the version of 'pictures of you' is a single mix (although i should have known of course, it's the single mix that's used on the video too).
anyway it's a very different version from the original indeed!
Ay, in the very temple of Delight
Veil'd Melancholy has her sovran shrine

Simon

Quote from: lostflower4 on May 21, 2009, 06:54:07
I'm a bit confused here...  How can you really compare the sound of the original Disintegration version and the one on Galore?  The Galore version is the single mix, which is a completely different thing. Of course it sounds different. Very different!  ;)

However, one could compare the sound of the original CD single vs. Galore, which was "remastered". Of course, the latter was compressed to be louder, although that's hardly any kind of real improvement.  :roll:

Because the mixing is a bit different. The galore version is a litte bit shorter and a bit less distant in terms of sound..
The further we go and older we grow
The more we know the less we show.

japanesebaby

Quote from: Simon on May 21, 2009, 11:38:28
Quote from: lostflower4 on May 21, 2009, 06:54:07
I'm a bit confused here...  How can you really compare the sound of the original Disintegration version and the one on Galore?  The Galore version is the single mix, which is a completely different thing. Of course it sounds different. Very different!  ;)

However, one could compare the sound of the original CD single vs. Galore, which was "remastered". Of course, the latter was compressed to be louder, although that's hardly any kind of real improvement.  :roll:

Because the mixing is a bit different. The galore version is a litte bit shorter and a bit less distant in terms of sound..

i think lostflower4 was trying to say that that is exactly why you can't compare the two the way you have, because the mixing is indeed different.

in any case, you should use proper speakers or headphones. computer speakers are way too bad to be trusted/to make any observations or judgements about the sound quality on any cd. 
Ay, in the very temple of Delight
Veil'd Melancholy has her sovran shrine

KingOfSomeIsland

Quote from: lostflower4 on May 21, 2009, 06:54:07
I'm a bit confused here...  How can you really compare the sound of the original Disintegration version and the one on Galore?  The Galore version is the single mix, which is a completely different thing. Of course it sounds different. Very different!  ;)

However, one could compare the sound of the original CD single vs. Galore, which was "remastered". Of course, the latter was compressed to be louder, although that's hardly any kind of real improvement.  :roll:

I actually prefer the extended single version (The 8-Minute one on the 12" Single) of Pictures more than the album version. I hope they include that on the Deluxe edition. 

cure89